I try to avoid coming across as a lunatic, although it does occur from time to time. Scientology, mind you, is one of very few topics that absolutely sets me the fuck off. If ever the word "quasi" is appropriate, this is it. It is a QUASI-religion. Fuck that, it's a bonafide cult full of greedheads, sycophants, and people absent of any inkling as how to function in the real world.
Scientology makes my ass itch. These people make Mormons look like the pinnacle of sound religious beliefs. It's a scam. Ron Hubbard invented Scientology as a result of a bet placed with his sci-fi buddy George Orwell. To give you an idea as to how morally fucked these people are, they operate Narcanon as a mechanism to recruit new members--philanthropy at its finest.
If there is a hell, the front row ought to be reserved for Scientology's flagbearers. It warms my cockles to picture Jenna Elfman, Tom Cruise, and that slab-of-bacon Kirstie Alley frying for infinity. Mmmmm. Grilled Scientologist.
That is messed up. Katie is going to regret not bonding with her baby the second it's delivered. I hope she ends up hating Tom when she hears her baby crying and she's not allowed to comfort it. Let's see Tom push a watermelon out his ass and see how quiet he is! Is she at least allowed to feed and diaper this baby? Or does Xenu dissaprove of that too?
I hope she feels that all the money she's made for doing this with Tom is worth it. We already know that her career is in the toilet since she signed up for this.
Okay, can someone get this girl some balls and have her stand up for herself. I don't normally leave comments, but this little tidbit really makes me boil. There's no way in hell is someone going to tell me how I'm going to act while birthing a human through a small hole on my body. I've had two children and there is nothing more precious than bonding in those first few days after birth. I'm all for help when the baby is cranky or needs a diaper change, but mother and child need that bonding period.
I'm all in favour of civil liberties and freedom of speech, but someone really has to intervene. This is inhuman, and i mean that in the strongest possible sense.
... One of the reasons the baby quiets down after birth is becasue of the mother. If you pace the baby near the mother's heart, it "remembers" the beating of the heart sound so it knows it's safe again. I don't want to picture trying to keep this baby quiet while it's alone and scared. Imagine how you would feel if you got shoved out of nice warm place where all of you needs were met only to find a grinning Tom Cruise taking you away to someplace away from where you need comfort. I wish someone wouldn't let this guy near kids. How will he punish them? "You threw a ball in the house, battery acid bath for you." As far as I know, Xenu hasn't said anything about that.
The prohibition on painkillers is manageable. My wife had our 2 kids without them (she did not want them) and everyone did well, though she made plenty of noise. The separation thing, however, is really outrageous and destructive for everyone involved. I can’t understand how seemingly intelligent people take the thoughtless rules generated by a third-tier science fiction writer seriously, especially when their children are involved.
Oh my god, anonymous above just made me laugh out loud. So, who is going to be the family member with the balls to call child services when that swaddled baby is left alone, screaming in its own waste?!? I'd like to kick Tom Cruise in his arrogant veneers, wrap him up tightly in a wool blanket and leave him in his own shit for a day or so.
Does he have her shut up in a little room where the only information she receives is filtered through him so she has absolutely no point of reference to what is real? This shit is just plain sick. I want to hurt him. Bad.
There is a interesting possibility here. As a current pregnant women they tell you to breast feed right away, it slows down post partum bleeding. And not bonding with the baby leads to post partum depression. So when Katie falls off the deep from depression and anemia wanders down the street naked singing show tunes; we can watch Tom make up a new Scientology doctrine about how she is closer to Spock, or is it Capt. Kirk??
I've given birth, it f*cking hurts like hell, AND I had plenty of pain meds. I know that there are scads of women who prefer to go it without...provided they're permitted to behave naturally. That means moaning, screaming, and asking others for help. Poor Katie. Poor, rich, stupid Katie.
i'm pretty sure that if i wasn't already violently repulsed by tom cruise and scientology in general, THIS would definitely be the last straw. wtfs, katie, srsly? and i thought britney's kabbalah-style birth idea was crazy...hah!
The reason behind not allowing contact between child and parent is simple as far as the church goes. It impairs the bonding between the parent and the child making it easier for the church to control the individual. Nothing is as strong as the bond between mother and child. Just think about how alone and scared that infant is ..The person who has always been there is not there for him/her. The child's psyche will not forget that; making it easier to for the church to step in and dominate and control the child. It is brainwashing from the womb. I cannot understand how Katie's parents can condone this happening to their grandchild. I cannot believe they have not educated themselves to the truth behind the scientology dogma.
I think those wackos need a good dose of Jim Jones Koolaid. Poor Katie that is an impossible expectation to live up to. Not make a noise with no pain meds. I don't think thats humanly possible. If she makes a peep what happens then?
I cannot say on here what I would like to do to Tom Cruise if he actually does this to his child and its mother, because he would sue me and also I would go to jail. When his baby is jaundiced all to hell from not being fed and rashy from sitting in its own stool, he'll probably give it back to Katie to deal with. Without complaining, of course.
I've never posted before, and I sure hope this is a joke. I've given birth twice...once without drugs. I made the most noise without the drugs! And I couldn't be quiet if I tried. Your body and the adrenaline take over - I was making noises I didn't think were possible (I apologized to everyone later). But the worst thought is to separate mom from baby. When both my babies were laid on my stomach, they both immediately recognized my voice and calmed down. They were nursing within 10 minutes. It's the most incredible time. To give that up for a misogynist teaching and a "Oh-yes-he-IS-GAY" fake boyfriend is ludicrous. I'm so over TC. I won't give another dime to any of his movies.
I really hope this is all a B.S. rumor. If not, this is really sad. I feel bad for Katie. I know she must have been really starstruck with Tom in the beginning of the relationship, so she decided to go along with his wacko scientology cult. She probably is feeling like she is drowning in it now. I hope to god her instincts take over during the delivery and she tears Tom's head off while screaming at the top of her lungs. I hope to god that she spends every second she can with that child. The whole situation is just so sickening I F-U-C-K-I-N-G HATE TOM CRUISE!!!!!
Good lord... It just totally amazes me how brainwashed people can get. It's TOTALLY obvious that a man thought up these rules to giving birth. No drugs and NO SOUND??? Are they fucking kidding me?? How about they push a 10pound watermelon out of their peeholes and see if they can keep their asses quiet!
Just so freakin ridiculous. And don't even get me started on the whole taking the baby away for a few days thing.
Can someone please throw that sick son of a bitch into the depths of moria for mankinds sake? And that Katie Holmes should muster up some brains, so that she will realize that the best thing to do right now would be to RUN AWAY FAST.
There was a study conducted a number years ago where children were seperated from their mother at birth and left on their own for a few days. The results of that study showed an EXTREMELY high number of the children died before they were reunited with their mother. Who in their right mind would want to risk that.. as if being born isn't traumatic and risky enough!!
this definitely is not any kind of joke or rumor, people. just check out the scientology website..its all there. there's also a quiz that tries to trick you into the cult. it has multiple choice questions about how happy/stable you are. I answered the all with the most positive spin possible and it still sugessted I order all the books and "vitamins" on the site.
When Tom Cruise can deliver a baby out of his alledgedly gay ass, then he can decide how a baby is delivered. And if Katie Holmes or anyone else allows this kind of dumbfuckery in her life, then she deserves what she gets.
Is it possible to report someone for child abuse in advance? Katie, if you let this freak show do this to you and your kid, you are a moron and no better than he is. You might as well leave the baby in a dumpster.
Wisk the baby away for a few days! What if Tom has a baby in the wings which he switches, takes Katie's baby to the aliens! Katie should not let that baby out of her sight.
It's not a joke. Silent birthing was decreed by L. Ron Hubbard, the misogynistic, psychotic founder of Scientology. The disconnection between mother and child was as well. Any mother that is more concerned about her child than being an upstanding cult member is not a good cult member.
So that's why Nicole adopted. What hospital would agree to take the baby away from the mother for no medical reason. That baby's only hope is if Katies parents are there to prevent this, but the chances of that sound pretty slim. If Katie does go thru with this like he wants then it's official, she is brainwashed and her parents need to stage an intervention. She is in for a long battle to get full custody of that kid if it comes down to that.
Stop whining about what a jackass Tom Cruise is. Katie's the money-grubbing whore that signed up for this tour of duty. If she's such a sellout that she'll do anything to keep the cash flowin', than she's w-o-r-s-e than Tom Cruise. She's going to be the kid's mother, for Pete's sake, so how isn't she even more responsible than (established weirdo) Tom Cruise? She's a stupid, fat-faced, no-talent bitch selling her own kid out for the money.
Why any woman would agree to such a insane thing. I have 3 children, I would never agree to such a stupid thing like that even if Tom Cruise was asking. It's obvious that he is out of his mind, And never given birth to a child himself. And I have to agree if she goes along with this she is brainwashed.
I am betting this is why Nicole wouldn't have kids with him. She didn't want to play this game. How ridiculous. Katie is so brainwashed and hopefully her pending birth will shake some sense into her. Or her motherly protection will kick in so she has the baby in a normal facility so she has a normal bonding with the baby. Tom needs to be institutionalized.
I agree with all of these comments. However, I do not feel the least bit sorry for Katie Holmes, since she is probably getting paid a ton of $$$ to spawn this demon seed. Tom needs to shut the hell up. Seriously, the man has beyond lost it. I cant believe Nicole Kidman didn't file for total custody of the other children.
All of this crap forced me to go to the Scientology web site (www.scientology.com) because I had to read what crap they are spewing to idiot followers. Apparently there are 8 "Dynamics" -- and get this - the 2nd Dynamic is Family & Children and all other 'creativity'. The 1st Dynamic is Self - the individual including his body, mind, and immediate possessions. Basically, this "religion" is instructing its followers to put themselves and their fucking POSSESSIONS above their family and children. What parent in their right mind would ever agree to such a ridiculous cult-theory???
Yeah Katie, go ahead, put yourself first over your child. We all know it isnt Tom's baby anyway. It's the baby of his *real* lover, the guy that is the head of Scientology. Apparently Tom and this man have been lovers for years, and this baby is his. Of course he "loves" you for doing this for he and his "partner" -- so you're basically a surrogate mother. It's so obvious. And so sad for the child involved. Other than that, you're a complete moron who should be sterilized because anyone who would agree to such an un-holy union should not be allowed to reproduce.
P.S. The Scientology web site also states that "L.Ron Hubbard discovered that drug and chemical residues are stored and trapped in the fatty tissues of the body and remain long after a person has been off drugs." HELLO YOU FUCKING IDIOTS - medical professionals have known this for years - before Hubbard was born -- and you are going to believe that HE was the one that made the discovery?? He was a science-fiction writer - NOT a doctor - NOR did he have any medical experience.
I second the poisoned KoolAid idea. Tom Cruise should be locked up and force-fed medication. Now there is a movie I'd pay to see =)
Anybody that wants to learn more about the cult of Scientology, Xenu.net is an excellent place to start. The cover page has tons of in depth information, interviews with ex-members, etc.
I delivered a 9 lbs baby with no drugs and I there is no way to be silent! Sorry! Aint happening! The whole separation thing is terrible! Poor baby being ripped out of its mothers arms... the only comfort its known.. Heck it has suffered enough with all the ultrasounds I am sure Tom has subjected it too!! FREAKIN MORON!!!
Well I guess Katie's Dad is still negotiating her pre-nups so I guesss they are too are blinded by the money. Forget that their grandchild will be groomed to be the anti-Christ.
Scientologists have a lot of policies regarding children that ARE ABUSE. It doesn't stop after they're born. I have a friend who was in Scientology for 24 years before leaving, and he was a high ranking member, I think it's called the Sea Org or something. He's told me all sorts of horror stories, and now he gives talks on radio shows and the like, about the dangers of Scientology.
The members really are brainwashed into criminally neglecting their children. To be a considered a good "church" member, the parents are expected to work for the church all day every day, and the kids take themselves to the Scientologist school, feed themselves, etc. Even 2-years olds do this.
it seems that many people are simply fed up with this couple, and the scientology furor of cruise himself. As the paying consumer for their films, it is our fault for continuing to see their films. If we all stop seeing their films maybe they will just go away.
Tom is sick. But this is really not that different to the forced adoptions that happen every year; where are all the people supporting the natural moms who lose their babies to agencies who have forced them into signing their child over?
Really, there are women being worked over right now, being told they are no good for their babies and here we have people saying the mother and baby bond is sacred yet no one is willing to protect these moms from losing their precious children. Isn't that hypocritical?
As has been said, this kind of separation is no different to the trauma faced by many adoptees who were not seen, let alone held, by our mothers after birth. The Scientology reasoning behind it seems to be to aid their brainwashing techniques. I'd like to point out that an adoptees' expereince is pretty similar - we are told we were chosen, that we belong to a different kind of family, that we are only a product of our environment and that we should be grateful for it all. Brainwashing works in such a way that something can trigger a rebellion in the brain, something that can happen to adoptees when they are reunited with their biological family. If babies born to Scientologists suffer from the experience, imagine what it must be like if the baby is never returned to its' natural parents.
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Jesus! just Jesus!
By Anonymous, on 12:54 PM
Emersom's
By Anonymous, on 12:59 PM
"... and then left alone for a day or so"?!?!! frickin' child abuse!
By momo, on 1:04 PM
that makes me very sad.
Damn that Xenu. Damn him to HELL.
on a side note, why are all science fiction people named something weird that starts with X or Q or Z?
By Anonymous, on 1:06 PM
I try to avoid coming across as a lunatic, although it does occur from time to time. Scientology, mind you, is one of very few topics that absolutely sets me the fuck off. If ever the word "quasi" is appropriate, this is it. It is a QUASI-religion. Fuck that, it's a bonafide cult full of greedheads, sycophants, and people absent of any inkling as how to function in the real world.
Scientology makes my ass itch. These people make Mormons look like the pinnacle of sound religious beliefs. It's a scam. Ron Hubbard invented Scientology as a result of a bet placed with his sci-fi buddy George Orwell. To give you an idea as to how morally fucked these people are, they operate Narcanon as a mechanism to recruit new members--philanthropy at its finest.
If there is a hell, the front row ought to be reserved for Scientology's flagbearers. It warms my cockles to picture Jenna Elfman, Tom Cruise, and that slab-of-bacon Kirstie Alley frying for infinity. Mmmmm. Grilled Scientologist.
By Gonzo, on 1:16 PM
That is messed up. Katie is going to regret not bonding with her baby the second it's delivered. I hope she ends up hating Tom when she hears her baby crying and she's not allowed to comfort it. Let's see Tom push a watermelon out his ass and see how quiet he is! Is she at least allowed to feed and diaper this baby? Or does Xenu dissaprove of that too?
By Anonymous, on 1:18 PM
Capt. Malcolm 'Mal' Reynolds...
By Anonymous, on 1:19 PM
I hope she feels that all the money she's made for doing this with Tom is worth it. We already know that her career is in the toilet since she signed up for this.
Talk about backfiring!
By Anonymous, on 1:31 PM
why can't these fucking idiots pull a mass suicide?!
By Anonymous, on 1:39 PM
Someone needs to do an intervention and get her the hell out of that relationship.
By Anonymous, on 1:40 PM
Anon 1:39
why can't these fucking idiots pull a mass suicide?!
As much as I dream of that day, it will never happen. It would fuck up their revenue chain.
By Gonzo, on 1:48 PM
Tom Cruise makes me want to jump off a bridge.
Actually - it makes me want to throw him off a bridge.
Fucking bastard. I wanna see him give birth to that big ol' baby and not make any noise.
By Daria, on 2:07 PM
Okay, can someone get this girl some balls and have her stand up for herself. I don't normally leave comments, but this little tidbit really makes me boil. There's no way in hell is someone going to tell me how I'm going to act while birthing a human through a small hole on my body. I've had two children and there is nothing more precious than bonding in those first few days after birth. I'm all for help when the baby is cranky or needs a diaper change, but mother and child need that bonding period.
By Anonymous, on 2:18 PM
I'm all in favour of civil liberties and freedom of speech, but someone really has to intervene. This is inhuman, and i mean that in the strongest possible sense.
By sam991, on 2:44 PM
... One of the reasons the baby quiets down after birth is becasue of the mother. If you pace the baby near the mother's heart, it "remembers" the beating of the heart sound so it knows it's safe again. I don't want to picture trying to keep this baby quiet while it's alone and scared. Imagine how you would feel if you got shoved out of nice warm place where all of you needs were met only to find a grinning Tom Cruise taking you away to someplace away from where you need comfort.
I wish someone wouldn't let this guy near kids. How will he punish them? "You threw a ball in the house, battery acid bath for you." As far as I know, Xenu hasn't said anything about that.
By Anonymous, on 2:46 PM
Tom Cruise is digging his own grave. Damnit, it sucks.
By Mateo, on 3:15 PM
The prohibition on painkillers is manageable. My wife had our 2 kids without them (she did not want them) and everyone did well, though she made plenty of noise. The separation thing, however, is really outrageous and destructive for everyone involved. I can’t understand how seemingly intelligent people take the thoughtless rules generated by a third-tier science fiction writer seriously, especially when their children are involved.
By Anonymous, on 3:32 PM
Well, did she make a sound when she was getting pregnant with the baby?
By Anonymous, on 5:02 PM
^Nice.
By Todd, on 5:11 PM
Oh my god, anonymous above just made me laugh out loud. So, who is going to be the family member with the balls to call child services when that swaddled baby is left alone, screaming in its own waste?!? I'd like to kick Tom Cruise in his arrogant veneers, wrap him up tightly in a wool blanket and leave him in his own shit for a day or so.
By people_are_stupid, on 5:23 PM
Does he have her shut up in a little room where the only information she receives is filtered through him so she has absolutely no point of reference to what is real? This shit is just plain sick. I want to hurt him. Bad.
By Anonymous, on 5:42 PM
There is a interesting possibility here. As a current pregnant women they tell you to breast feed right away, it slows down post partum bleeding. And not bonding with the baby leads to post partum depression. So when Katie falls off the deep from depression and anemia wanders down the street naked singing show tunes; we can watch Tom make up a new Scientology doctrine about how she is closer to Spock, or is it Capt. Kirk??
By Anonymous, on 5:53 PM
I've given birth, it f*cking hurts like hell, AND I had plenty of pain meds. I know that there are scads of women who prefer to go it without...provided they're permitted to behave naturally. That means moaning, screaming, and asking others for help. Poor Katie. Poor, rich, stupid Katie.
By Anonymous, on 6:03 PM
i'm pretty sure that if i wasn't already violently repulsed by tom cruise and scientology in general, THIS would definitely be the last straw. wtfs, katie, srsly? and i thought britney's kabbalah-style birth idea was crazy...hah!
By Anonymous, on 6:08 PM
The reason behind not allowing contact between child and parent is simple as far as the church goes. It impairs the bonding between the parent and the child making it easier for the church to control the individual. Nothing is as strong as the bond between mother and child. Just think about how alone and scared that infant is ..The person who has always been there is not there for him/her. The child's psyche will not forget that; making it easier to for the church to step in and dominate and control the child. It is brainwashing from the womb. I cannot understand how Katie's parents can condone this happening to their grandchild. I cannot believe they have not educated themselves to the truth behind the scientology dogma.
By Anonymous, on 6:11 PM
Somewhere in the deepest circle of Hell, L Ron Hubburd is laughing his ass off.
By Anonymous, on 6:41 PM
I think those wackos need a good dose of Jim Jones Koolaid. Poor Katie that is an impossible expectation to live up to. Not make a noise with no pain meds. I don't think thats humanly possible. If she makes a peep what happens then?
By Anonymous, on 8:39 PM
I hope she has to have an emergency csection >:)
There's plenty of pain meds involved in that.
By Anonymous, on 8:56 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem like TomKat's scientology escapades are sounding more and more like an episode of Lost?
By Alex, on 9:39 PM
I cannot say on here what I would like to do to Tom Cruise if he actually does this to his child and its mother, because he would sue me and also I would go to jail. When his baby is jaundiced all to hell from not being fed and rashy from sitting in its own stool, he'll probably give it back to Katie to deal with. Without complaining, of course.
By Anonymous, on 9:41 PM
I've never posted before, and I sure hope this is a joke. I've given birth twice...once without drugs. I made the most noise without the drugs! And I couldn't be quiet if I tried. Your body and the adrenaline take over - I was making noises I didn't think were possible (I apologized to everyone later). But the worst thought is to separate mom from baby. When both my babies were laid on my stomach, they both immediately recognized my voice and calmed down. They were nursing within 10 minutes. It's the most incredible time. To give that up for a misogynist teaching and a "Oh-yes-he-IS-GAY" fake boyfriend is ludicrous. I'm so over TC. I won't give another dime to any of his movies.
By Anonymous, on 10:15 PM
I really hope this is all a B.S. rumor. If not, this is really sad. I feel bad for Katie. I know she must have been really starstruck with Tom in the beginning of the relationship, so she decided to go along with his wacko scientology cult. She probably is feeling like she is drowning in it now. I hope to god her instincts take over during the delivery and she tears Tom's head off while screaming at the top of her lungs. I hope to god that she spends every second she can with that child. The whole situation is just so sickening I F-U-C-K-I-N-G HATE TOM CRUISE!!!!!
By Anonymous, on 10:54 PM
Good lord... It just totally amazes me how brainwashed people can get.
It's TOTALLY obvious that a man thought up these rules to giving birth.
No drugs and NO SOUND??? Are they fucking kidding me??
How about they push a 10pound watermelon out of their peeholes and see if they can keep their asses quiet!
Just so freakin ridiculous.
And don't even get me started on the whole taking the baby away for a few days thing.
How anyone could follow this crap is beyond me.
By Anonymous, on 12:30 AM
Can someone please throw that sick son of a bitch into the depths of moria for mankinds sake? And that Katie Holmes should muster up some brains, so that she will realize that the best thing to do right now would be to RUN AWAY FAST.
By Anonymous, on 1:38 AM
There was a study conducted a number years ago where children were seperated from their mother at birth and left on their own for a few days. The results of that study showed an EXTREMELY high number of the children died before they were reunited with their mother. Who in their right mind would want to risk that.. as if being born isn't traumatic and risky enough!!
Tom Cruise is an idiot!
By Anonymous, on 7:06 AM
this definitely is not any kind of joke or rumor, people. just check out the scientology website..its all there. there's also a quiz that tries to trick you into the cult. it has multiple choice questions about how happy/stable you are. I answered the all with the most positive spin possible and it still sugessted I order all the books and "vitamins" on the site.
By Anonymous, on 7:35 AM
Right now I'd like nothing more than to be swaddled in a blanky and cuddled and held by Tom Cruise ...Goo,goo, gaa, gaa...
By Anonymous, on 9:07 AM
Does anyone know if this is the way Kelly Preston gave birth to John Travolta's kids?
By Anonymous, on 12:08 PM
anon 12:08. Yes she did it was on VH1.
By Anonymous, on 1:45 PM
When Tom Cruise can deliver a baby out of his alledgedly gay ass, then he can decide how a baby is delivered. And if Katie Holmes or anyone else allows this kind of dumbfuckery in her life, then she deserves what she gets.
Stupid celebrities.
By mooalex, on 3:32 PM
Is it possible to report someone for child abuse in advance? Katie, if you let this freak show do this to you and your kid, you are a moron and no better than he is. You might as well leave the baby in a dumpster.
By doppelganglander, on 4:38 PM
Yes, Kelly Preston did the same thing. She freakin admitted it during an on camera interview. She and John, Tom, and Katie are all idiots.
By Anonymous, on 5:52 PM
insane. just insane.
By Anonymous, on 6:21 PM
Wisk the baby away for a few days! What if Tom has a baby in the wings which he switches, takes Katie's baby to the aliens! Katie should not let that baby out of her sight.
By Anonymous, on 7:14 PM
It's not a joke. Silent birthing was decreed by L. Ron Hubbard, the misogynistic, psychotic founder of Scientology. The disconnection between mother and child was as well. Any mother that is more concerned about her child than being an upstanding cult member is not a good cult member.
By Anonymous, on 7:57 PM
I just hope she gets to keep the boobies.
By Anonymous, on 8:19 PM
If you're wondering if this is a joke, check out www.xenu.net
By Anonymous, on 8:04 AM
So that's why Nicole adopted.
What hospital would agree to take the baby away from the mother for no medical reason.
That baby's only hope is if Katies parents are there to prevent this, but the chances of that sound pretty slim.
If Katie does go thru with this like he wants then it's official, she is brainwashed and her parents need to stage an intervention.
She is in for a long battle to get full custody of that kid if it comes down to that.
By ex Tom fan, on 10:44 AM
Stop whining about what a jackass Tom Cruise is. Katie's the money-grubbing whore that signed up for this tour of duty. If she's such a sellout that she'll do anything to keep the cash flowin', than she's w-o-r-s-e than Tom Cruise. She's going to be the kid's mother, for Pete's sake, so how isn't she even more responsible than (established weirdo) Tom Cruise? She's a stupid, fat-faced, no-talent bitch selling her own kid out for the money.
By Anonymous, on 3:16 PM
Obviously L. Ron Hubbard has never given birth or heard of the Kangaroo method that is recommended by OBs.
By Anonymous, on 8:03 AM
Why any woman would agree to such a insane thing. I have 3 children, I would never agree to such a stupid thing like that even if Tom Cruise was asking. It's obvious that he is out of his mind, And never given birth to a child himself. And I have to agree if she goes along with this she is brainwashed.
By Anonymous, on 8:07 AM
That's the sickest thing I've ever heard. No good mom would agree to that.
By Anonymous, on 11:22 AM
we all know he's a complete moron, but i can't believe she's agreeing to any of this crap. i don't care if he's tom cruise or not.
By Anonymous, on 12:44 PM
I am betting this is why Nicole wouldn't have kids with him. She didn't want to play this game. How ridiculous. Katie is so brainwashed and hopefully her pending birth will shake some sense into her. Or her motherly protection will kick in so she has the baby in a normal facility so she has a normal bonding with the baby. Tom needs to be institutionalized.
By Anonymous, on 12:55 PM
I agree with all of these comments. However, I do not feel the least bit sorry for Katie Holmes, since she is probably getting paid a ton of $$$ to spawn this demon seed. Tom needs to shut the hell up. Seriously, the man has beyond lost it. I cant believe Nicole Kidman didn't file for total custody of the other children.
All of this crap forced me to go to the Scientology web site (www.scientology.com) because I had to read what crap they are spewing to idiot followers. Apparently there are 8 "Dynamics" -- and get this - the 2nd Dynamic is Family & Children and all other 'creativity'. The 1st Dynamic is Self - the individual including his body, mind, and immediate possessions. Basically, this "religion" is instructing its followers to put themselves and their fucking POSSESSIONS above their family and children. What parent in their right mind would ever agree to such a ridiculous cult-theory???
Yeah Katie, go ahead, put yourself first over your child. We all know it isnt Tom's baby anyway. It's the baby of his *real* lover, the guy that is the head of Scientology. Apparently Tom and this man have been lovers for years, and this baby is his. Of course he "loves" you for doing this for he and his "partner" -- so you're basically a surrogate mother. It's so obvious. And so sad for the child involved. Other than that, you're a complete moron who should be sterilized because anyone who would agree to such an un-holy union should not be allowed to reproduce.
P.S. The Scientology web site also states that "L.Ron Hubbard discovered that drug and chemical residues are stored and trapped in the fatty tissues of the body and remain long after a person has been off drugs." HELLO YOU FUCKING IDIOTS - medical professionals have known this for years - before Hubbard was born -- and you are going to believe that HE was the one that made the discovery??
He was a science-fiction writer - NOT a doctor - NOR did he have any medical experience.
I second the poisoned KoolAid idea. Tom Cruise should be locked up and force-fed medication. Now there is a movie I'd pay to see =)
By Danielle, on 1:24 PM
Anybody that wants to learn more about the cult of Scientology, Xenu.net is an excellent place to start. The cover page has tons of in depth information, interviews with ex-members, etc.
By nunya, on 2:28 PM
Man, I find it insulting to compare Native American births to scientology.
But maybe that's just me.
By Anonymous, on 3:21 PM
I delivered a 9 lbs baby with no drugs and I there is no way to be silent! Sorry! Aint happening! The whole separation thing is terrible! Poor baby being ripped out of its mothers arms... the only comfort its known.. Heck it has suffered enough with all the ultrasounds I am sure Tom has subjected it too!! FREAKIN MORON!!!
By Anonymous, on 11:12 PM
Well I guess Katie's Dad is still negotiating her pre-nups so I guesss they are too are blinded by the money. Forget that their grandchild will be groomed to be the anti-Christ.
By Anonymous, on 5:28 AM
Scientologists have a lot of policies regarding children that ARE ABUSE. It doesn't stop after they're born. I have a friend who was in Scientology for 24 years before leaving, and he was a high ranking member, I think it's called the Sea Org or something. He's told me all sorts of horror stories, and now he gives talks on radio shows and the like, about the dangers of Scientology.
The members really are brainwashed into criminally neglecting their children. To be a considered a good "church" member, the parents are expected to work for the church all day every day, and the kids take themselves to the Scientologist school, feed themselves, etc. Even 2-years olds do this.
So sad.
By Anonymous, on 9:51 AM
it seems that many people are simply fed up with this couple, and the scientology furor of cruise himself. As the paying consumer for their films, it is our fault for continuing to see their films. If we all stop seeing their films maybe they will just go away.
By Anonymous, on 5:16 PM
Tom is sick. But this is really not that different to the forced adoptions that happen every year; where are all the people supporting the natural moms who lose their babies to agencies who have forced them into signing their child over?
Really, there are women being worked over right now, being told they are no good for their babies and here we have people saying the mother and baby bond is sacred yet no one is willing to protect these moms from losing their precious children. Isn't that hypocritical?
By Anonymous, on 5:14 PM
As has been said, this kind of separation is no different to the trauma faced by many adoptees who were not seen, let alone held, by our mothers after birth. The Scientology reasoning behind it seems to be to aid their brainwashing techniques. I'd like to point out that an adoptees' expereince is pretty similar - we are told we were chosen, that we belong to a different kind of family, that we are only a product of our environment and that we should be grateful for it all. Brainwashing works in such a way that something can trigger a rebellion in the brain, something that can happen to adoptees when they are reunited with their biological family. If babies born to Scientologists suffer from the experience, imagine what it must be like if the baby is never returned to its' natural parents.
By Anonymous, on 8:26 PM
"Rosemary's Baby" ring a bell?
By Anonymous, on 11:37 AM
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