"Nouvel" is NOT French for "new." The French words for "new" are "nouveau" (masculine form of the adjective) and "nouvelle" (feminine form of the same adjective). If those dipshits intended to name their kid "New" in French, and fucked it up this badly, they are even dumber than I thought.
they are emergency procedures..except in hollywood, where they are planned so the celeb mom can plan her exact due date, wont have to worry about any of the messy stuff associated with giving a vaginal birth and her already washed up, dried up pussy wont have to be stretched out..way to go hollywood.
I think the only reason celebrities have c-sections are b/c:
a. they don't want to go through the work of actually pushing a baby out and stretching their pussy and by pushing a baby out, there is a lot of strain on the face and that causes wrinkles on the forehead.
b. by having a c-section, it will leave a scar on their tummies which eventually will be used again to have a tummy tuck. Whenever someone will ask them "is that scar from a tummy tuck?" they will say "no, it's from my c-section"
A lot of celebs also have C-Sections because a lot of them have Herpes. A lot of people have Herpes. And the infant can contract Herpes through vaginal birth, so the mothers choose C-Sections as a precautionary measure.
I'm glad Gwen always looks nice. Being pregnant is no reason for always looking disheveled. I'm sure that even after giving birth she'll still be looking cute. Go Gwen!
In AJ's defense, the story is that the baby was in a breech presentation. Most of them, though, I would agree: too posh to push, and immediate tummy tuck.
Ironically, Jennifer Aniston's character on Friends had a vaginal birth for a breech baby - it's possible, but not often attempted, esp in America where doctors want to slice you open for just about anything.
There are a lot of OBGYNs who suggest C-Section over vaginal if you've been in labor for too long. Better for the mother, better for the baby in many cases. It doesn't make you any less of a mother or the birth any less of a birth. It's beautiful no matter how it's done. C-Section babies are usually prettier after birth, too. No coneheads.
My biggest beef with the c-section vs. vaginal is the "let's schedule it" concept. If your doctor says do a "c" then do it. If your baby is breech, you done got herpes or you are way past your due date, have a c-section. If you are doign a c-section so you can avoid pain, have an immediate tummy tuck and schedule it around your starbucks runs (britney!) then you are a self-centered vapid brat.
I'm very happy for gwen and gavin. Imagine this baby's clothes? It will be so funny to see him grow up.
And I think they are a sweet couple. They seem relatively normal and aren't so phony with the in your face PDA and other BS that we have to tolerate from so many other couples.
And dang, if I just ain't a sucker for a couple being unmarried, starting to date, dating for a few years, getting engaged, having a nice wedding (or two if you're gwen and gavin), being married for a few years AND THEN having a baby. Gosh how anti-britney/ brangelina/ tomkat of me.
Wow. I had no idea there were this many people who were so... against C-sections. What a bizarre stance.
What comes next, feeling superiour to people who use painkillers during labor? Oh--what about women who make noise? Maybe that's also self-indulgent. As long as the baby isn't hurt (and ceasarians are rumored to be less stressful) don't you think the way a baby is delivered is sort of a personal choice?
I sincerely doubt that there's a study that proves vaginal births make for better mothers... if I'm wrong, just say where to look.
I work in an office that does a lot of medical malpractice work.
C-section vs. vaginal is a HUGE issue. A ton of malpractice cases are filed because doctors don't do c-sections "soon" enough.
Most ob's will tell you that vaginal should always be done unless there is a medical reason otherwise (mom has health complications, babies are premies, etc). A c-section is NOT easier on the baby, the mother's recovery time is about double over vaginal and it is a major/dangerous invasive surgery! (that should only be done when medically necessary).
The problem is that in our (meaning professional women like me) desperate attempts to control everything, c-sections are becoming more popular and women who demand it will use another doctor if a doctor tells them they won't do it just to accomodate scheduling.
No it doesn't make you 'less of a mom' and yes it is a personal choice, but it's a choice that a lot of women are making without the full facts.
And there is no medical evidence that c-sections are safer for moms and babies when it's a normal pregnancy.
wow, i had a c-section and ended up in the hospital for 2 weeks due to complications. a few weeks later my cousin actually "gave birth" and she was out in 12 hours. too bad she didn't decide to take the easy way out too. wtf? i didn't know that c-sections were supposed to be easy and painless--i guess someone forgot to tell my doctors too.
and what's up with celebrities having their babies at the same time? first TomKat and Brooke now Gwen and Brangelina--i'm getting a strange end of days vibe--and the whole new messiah vs. poor Suri doesn't help much.
What do you mean by "c-section is NOT easier on the baby"? A baby is delivered quicker through a c-section than being squeezed through the birth canal sometimes for hours. I don't think either of them sound too "easy" for the baby, but vaginal birth doesn't sound too fun for them. What you're really arguing about here is what's "easier" for the mother.
In my case (both times) I had complications during labor, and both C-Sections were medically necessary, or both my babies and I would have died. So a C-Section was "easier" for all of us.
"Giving birth" is "giving birth" whether you're "giving birth" vaginally or "giving birth" via C-section. Some of you sound like 12 year olds. Grow up.
Ulp...you all are grossing me out! I thought the Stork brought babies! First Santy Claus and the Energizer Bunny and now this! Next you'll be telling me the lady that sneaks into my room at night and sticks her hand under my pillow isn't really the Tooth Fairy?? Actually you may be right about that one, 'cause she never leaves me any money just empty liquor bottles. I think she said her name was Tara Something-or-other.
Anon 11:17...we aren't talking about emergency c-sections like yours. OBVIOUSLY...if the baby is in danger, a c-section is easier/ better/ healthier/ smarter etc.
The issue is whether the mothers CHOOSING a c-section for the reason of it being "less traumatic" on a baby. Is there any evidence that that is the case?
Simply because we don't think it sounds like fun to hang out in a vagina for 8 hours doesn't mean that an unborn baby is traumatized by that. (Oh dear....now look at that can of worms I just opened.) Babies are forced to scream and cry right afterwards after both kinds of births. Arguably, it's the leaving the womb that sucks...not the means by which you leave it.
Matt, dear, sorry to traumatize you. Surely there's a womb somewhere for you to crawl into?
10:59, If you're saying you work for an asshole attorney who makes a living from suing doctors for malpractice which is a major cause of why insurance rates are so high that most of the people I know can't afford insurance because of it and really good doctors are leaving my state because they can't afford malpractice insurance either - and it's especially bad because most of the cases are bullshit because the doctors did not commit malpractice and scumbags are just looking to get rich as are the attorneys they retain to sue the doctors - then I really don't give a shit what you have to say on the issue.
oh holy shit. give me a break. you people are actually arguing over how people choose to give birth. you want someone telling you what to do with your body and baby? No. so stfu.
and how fucking high and mighty to name your baby "New Messiah." Anti-Christ anyone?
Anon 11:53. I defend doctors in med mal cases. Shut your face. "does a lot of medical malpractice work" doesn't mean you sue doctors. But thanks for playing.
And thank you for letting me know that "you don't really give a shit what I have to say". It just so happens I read these ob-gyn's charts all day. I'm just reporting what I read.
To the idiot who posted first...try double checking your facts before you post. "Nouveau" and "Nouvel" are both masculin adjectives for "new"...Nouveau is used when the word (usually noun) following it begins with a consonant, Nouvel is used when the word following it begins with a vowel. For example, "le nouvel an".
People, it doesn't matter how a baby exits the womb. What matters is the loving family waiting for it. Both of these babies obviously will have wonderful families to grow up in. Maybe one of them can even adopt SPF and his sibling.
As a mother of 2, I can attest that when you are handed your baby, you are also handed your load of guilt. Guilt for what you did or didn't do during pregnancy. Guilt for what you did or didn't do during labor. And guilt for every choice you make raising your child. Why don't you all find someone else to pick on, like murderers and child abusers.
The baby is 'New Messiah'? Oh wow. I wouldn't have thought that anyone could think up worse names than Gwyneth Paltrow and Paula Yates combined, but Jolie has succeeded.
Am i the only one getting a Dune reference here? Genetically superior child from the desert who leads humanity into a bold new era or something like that.
3 years ago, the very idea of Jolie wathcing over kids would have been laughed at: she was perceived as a wacko, the butt of comics everywehre for frenching her brother at some awards (classic SNL bit), for being with Billy Bob and all their blood fetish, and so on. You have to love kids: they can make you go from nuts to saint in one minute if you know how to accesorize them. Maybe OJ should adopt....
As for the french thing, yes "Nouvel" is one way to spell 'new' but it is the MASCULINE word for it, equivalent to 'Nouveau', NOT 'nouvelle', so its still a fuckup in the sense that it is the masculin version of the word 'new'. Really should have asked someone how to spell. Right up there with Sacha Cohen whose name in Russian and other slavic languages is short for Alexander, hence a guys name.
As for Shiloh, that must be like Suri.... make nice with the chosen people who will be bankrolling your next film. Hell, Anthony Pelicano wanted to convert so he could do better business in hollywood.
>The baby is 'New Messiah'? Oh wow. I wouldn't have thought that anyone could think up >worse names than Gwyneth Paltrow and Paula Yates combined, but Jolie has succeeded.
'New Messiah'? Ohhhh brother.....
>Am i the only one getting a Dune reference here? Genetically superior child >from the desert who leads humanity into a bold new era or something like that.
Now that you mention it.....its right on the money dude.
I know guys wanna drill her but she gives me the creeps. Even more than when she was with that hillbilly husband.
So the name is really something like "the (manly) new, pretty messiah"... and Pitt? Well that doesn't really belong now does it. But thanks for lending your quality genetic make-up to fertilize me, Brad! How long before she dumps him now?
you guys are stupid. c-sections are used when your in labor too long or when the contractions dont let ur vaginal walls open up enough for the baby to come out. this can be caused by alot of excercising. gwen stefani had a very athletic body with tight abs. when the muscles are tightended its very hard for the baby to push its way out so they use c-sections.
oh yea and fuck angelina jolie. that stupid home wrecking whore. her and brad can fall straight to hell.
does no one realize that Shiloh was an historic civil war battle that resulted in more casualties than we had lost in every other war COMBINED up to that point? anyone? hmmm...guess not. Hey everybody....READ A BOOK!!!!! it might make you smarter
Angie had a C-section because the baby was breach...I tend to believe this...unless she purposely scheduled a c-section to avoid the papparzzi, but she doesn't seem the type.
I had a c section, honestly, because I was afraid of the pain.. I will admit it. Not for reasons like I wanted to stay tight or whatever, I did not plan the date untill just a few days before. I have no pain tolerance, so I did it, and I am glad I did
Brad and Angelina are both assholes who are completely full of themselves. No sane, rational human being names their child the equivalent of "New Messiah". A bit pompous? How shitty of them to presume that their child will be so extraordinary just because its mother and father are beautiful. That's basically what they've gone and done and it's totally ridiculous.
I don't care how much money these assholes give the Namibian people...they are still tacky and pathetic. What ever makes you feel better I suppose...
The JO PITTS named their kid Shilo Pitt as in shallow pit. Give me a F-cking break. Don't these ass stars ever think further than their erections??????????
C-sections are not just for urgent reason, some c-sections are elective and rumour has tha tmany celeb's have that at 8-8 1/2 months because most of the stretching of the stomach occurs in the last month of pregnancy. It's also a lot easier than working for. Freeze ya, cut ya, sew ya - and bing baby in your arms. Actually it's a real controvesry the number of women who are getting them and the number of doctors who performing when they aren't necessary for mother/baby safety.
Are you people all for "the woman must suffer for hours and hours" ??? Why are you against c-sections ? have you ever heard of babies that DIED BECAUUSE the mom had c-section ?? I have 2 children, the first birth was natural, the second a planned C. And If i`ll have more babies, Ill di C`s !!! Do you think is fun to piss yourself for 6 months whenever you lough ??? Grow up ! It`s the woman`s choise
Jolie is just an act. Pure act. She pretends she's this strong woman and then she met Brad Pitt and fell head over heels and got knocked up as a way to snag him. Pathetic. She's nothing better than the trailer park girls who do the same thing. I'm sure it will last *rolls eyes*. Well, among those 2 ladies who had babies, hundreds of thousands of other mothers gave birth on the same day, and I could care less about all of them. Being a guy, I didn't know about that herpes thing, but that explains all the fuss about Hollywood C-sections as of late. Dame hos (or is it hoes?), and they are reproducing . . . man, I wish God would hurry up with the Apocalypse. I can't take much more of this.
"They are nothing but attention whores...I don't care how "secluded" Namibia is. They are just asking to be hounded now.
-- I agree. --
I wonder how many people died waiting for medical attention because Angelina had every doctor waiting on her in the already poorly maintained hospital in Namibia?
Yes, certainly you are right, but you are missing the point. For many women, they can't afford proper healthcare, let alone a C-section. It's not possible for some ladies, but celebs think it is their right, privilege and they bump other people down the waiting list because they throw money at doctors. anonymous 5:30am is right in asking how many Namibians died or didn't get care just so Jolie could have her precious "messiah" taken care of by all the best medicare workers in the country and make sure her C-section (regardless of why it was performed) was taken care of. THAT, is truly pathetic, so don't miss the point, ladies.
May 30, 2006 5:49 PM May 30, 2006 6:44 PM May 30, 2006 8:06 PM May 30, 2006 8:41 PM May 30, 2006 9:41 PM May 31, 2006 5:27 AM May 31, 2006 5:30 AM
Plenty more of ya, but I'm tired:
Anyway, I've never read so many ignorant, backward, idiotic, jealous, off the spool, dumbass, beyond stupid stuff in all my blogging life. You all sound just absofreakinglutly off your nut, and I bet everyone of you blokes are Bush voting, trailier park living, cousin screwing Americans who still hate that the Golden Couple blew itself to smithereens and left you without a fantasy to dive into to escape your dull as dishwater existence.
God you're a seriously boring and never ending complaining lot if I ever saw one.
My GOD I've not ever read someone with no experience in Nambia write so much based on such massive misinformation! It is my homeland, and you are insulting to say the least. The most sad part of what you say here is that many will believe you over me who IS a citizen of Namibia. The couple have done no such thing as you speak. They have added to the lives of more people here than I'm sure to realize you have where ever you are in the world. The Pitt family have done more for this country in a matter of months than has been done for us in more than 10yrs and if you have any troubles with that don't worry because your opinion is made up out of hate for the Pitt's family, and really having nothing to do with caring about the women of my country or their childbearing. You are more worse than a hypocrite and I hope you never find your way to our shores.
Actually you are right. I haven't done much for your country. I sponser a child from Sri Lanka and another child from Uganda. I'm sorry I don't make hoards of money by pretending a.k.a. 'acting', so I haven't gotten around to sponsering a child from Namibia yet. So, I guess you are right, I haven't added anything to Namibia, and if I ever do, I won't have my press people announcing it to the world.
10:52am May 31 . . . um, I'm not an American, so I never voted for Bush. Sorry to burst your bubble, but not everyone who blogs is American. By the way, if you are a lefty, shouldn't you be saving your fighting words for the little guy and not the rich, talentless, dolts that add nothing to society except a good laugh? Well, I guess recent studies show that laughing lengthens ones life, so I'll keep laughing at them and at you for being retarded enough to defend celebrity douchebags. On one last note, if you hadn't noticed . . . this site doesn't exist to feed the egos of the 'celebs' and watch their big, empty heads grow, it's to bring them back to reality (not that they read these --- not that they can read at all) and remind them that they are the jack-assed jokers here to entertain us, the real royalty of the world. They aren't royalty, and shouldn't be treated as such . . . so let's all remember that. You (10:52 am) are a joker though, so entertain me some more with your nearly incoherent babble . . . you know you want to.
Um, I'm Namibian as well May 31 9:40 am. I don't think it's right that those celebs are just using our country. It's completely pointless. They are filthy rich and can leave whenever they want (they have no intentions of staying there permenantly), so what's the point of going there, dropping a little bit of their cash, using the medical facilities and then leaving? They are users and you should be ashamed to defend them. What about our own people? Defend them instead.
THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE A STATEMENT WITH THAT NAME. IT WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT TO SAY THEY HAVE ACHIEVED THEIR GOAL. BUT MAYBE WE MISJUDGE, MAYBE THERE IS A GREAT AUNT SHILOH OR GRANDPA NOUVEL THEY ARE TRYING TO HONOR, INSTEAD OF COMING OFF LIKE THE POMPOUS ASSES THEY ARE BY NAMING THEIR CHILD THE NEW MESSIAH. MAYBE WE ARE READING TO MUCH INTO THEIR HONEST INTENTIONS. WHATEVER THE SITUATION MAYBE THAT CHILD HAS A LONG ARDOUS LIFE AHEAD OF HER WITH A NAME LIKE THAT. WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING!!!!!!!!
IT IS SCARY NAMING YOUR CHILD. ANY PARENT OUT THERE KNOWS THAT. YOU DON'T WANT TO SADDLE YOUR CHILD WITH A NAME THAT WILL HURT/EMBARRASS/HUMILIATE ETC. HIM/HER AND SCAR HIM/HER FOR THE REST OF HIS/HER LIFE. SO FAR I'VE HEARD SHI-HOE, SHOVEL BUT WHO KNOWS HOW MANY ARE OUT THERE? WHAT THE HELL WHERE THEY THINKING??? IN ALL HONESTY I WOULD LIKE AN ANWSER TO THIS QUESTION. IF ANYBODY OF BRANGELINA'S PEOPLE READ THIS 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY WON'T, LET THEM KNOW, PLEASE. I THINK THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD LIKE AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT CUTE LITTLE NAME. POOOOR POOOOR KID (MILLIONS AND BAJILLIONS ASIDE)
I BID YOU ADIEU OR IS IT ADIUE? WHAT EVER 'TIL NEVER.
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"Nouvel" is NOT French for "new." The French words for "new" are "nouveau" (masculine form of the adjective) and "nouvelle" (feminine form of the same adjective). If those dipshits intended to name their kid "New" in French, and fucked it up this badly, they are even dumber than I thought.
By Anonymous, on 9:24 AM
should you really call it "giving birth" when the baby's taken by c-section? just.not.right. (at least to me).
i guess c-section births are the 'hot thing' right now.
By jen, on 9:27 AM
Yes, it's still "giving birth", moron. Also, some people don't have a choice and C sections are an emergency procedure.
By Anonymous, on 9:33 AM
Nouvel might refer to the great contemporary French architect Jean Nouvel. Pitt's a noted fan of modern design.
By Shecky Green, on 9:34 AM
they are emergency procedures..except in hollywood, where they are planned so the celeb mom can plan her exact due date, wont have to worry about any of the messy stuff associated with giving a vaginal birth and her already washed up, dried up pussy wont have to be stretched out..way to go hollywood.
By Anonymous, on 9:36 AM
I think the only reason celebrities have c-sections are b/c:
a. they don't want to go through the work of actually pushing a baby out and stretching their pussy and by pushing a baby out, there is a lot of strain on the face and that causes wrinkles on the forehead.
b. by having a c-section, it will leave a scar on their tummies which eventually will be used again to have a tummy tuck. Whenever someone will ask them "is that scar from a tummy tuck?" they will say "no, it's from my c-section"
So there you go :)
By Anonymous, on 9:42 AM
Word is that AJ had a C-section because of her herpes. C-section is recommended for STD carriers so that it isn't passed on to the baby.
By Anonymous, on 9:45 AM
A lot of celebs also have C-Sections because a lot of them have Herpes. A lot of people have Herpes. And the infant can contract Herpes through vaginal birth, so the mothers choose C-Sections as a precautionary measure.
By Anonymous, on 9:45 AM
I'm glad Gwen always looks nice. Being pregnant is no reason for always looking disheveled. I'm sure that even after giving birth she'll still be looking cute. Go Gwen!
By Isobel, on 10:21 AM
In AJ's defense, the story is that the baby was in a breech presentation. Most of them, though, I would agree: too posh to push, and immediate tummy tuck.
Ironically, Jennifer Aniston's character on Friends had a vaginal birth for a breech baby - it's possible, but not often attempted, esp in America where doctors want to slice you open for just about anything.
By Anonymous, on 10:24 AM
There are a lot of OBGYNs who suggest C-Section over vaginal if you've been in labor for too long. Better for the mother, better for the baby in many cases. It doesn't make you any less of a mother or the birth any less of a birth. It's beautiful no matter how it's done. C-Section babies are usually prettier after birth, too. No coneheads.
By Anonymous, on 10:28 AM
Having a C Section is still "giving birth". Yes, there are stupid questions, and that was one.
By Anonymous, on 10:35 AM
My biggest beef with the c-section vs. vaginal is the "let's schedule it" concept.
If your doctor says do a "c" then do it. If your baby is breech, you done got herpes or you are way past your due date, have a c-section.
If you are doign a c-section so you can avoid pain, have an immediate tummy tuck and schedule it around your starbucks runs (britney!) then you are a self-centered vapid brat.
By Anonymous, on 10:41 AM
I'm very happy for gwen and gavin. Imagine this baby's clothes? It will be so funny to see him grow up.
And I think they are a sweet couple. They seem relatively normal and aren't so phony with the in your face PDA and other BS that we have to tolerate from so many other couples.
And dang, if I just ain't a sucker for a couple being unmarried, starting to date, dating for a few years, getting engaged, having a nice wedding (or two if you're gwen and gavin), being married for a few years AND THEN having a baby. Gosh how anti-britney/ brangelina/ tomkat of me.
By Anonymous, on 10:46 AM
Wow. I had no idea there were this many people who were so... against C-sections. What a bizarre stance.
What comes next, feeling superiour to people who use painkillers during labor? Oh--what about women who make noise? Maybe that's also self-indulgent. As long as the baby isn't hurt (and ceasarians are rumored to be less stressful) don't you think the way a baby is delivered is sort of a personal choice?
I sincerely doubt that there's a study that proves vaginal births make for better mothers... if I'm wrong, just say where to look.
By Anonymous, on 10:48 AM
So this genetically superior kid is named "New Messiah"? I foresee a cult growing out of this
By Anonymous, on 10:56 AM
I work in an office that does a lot of medical malpractice work.
C-section vs. vaginal is a HUGE issue. A ton of malpractice cases are filed because doctors don't do c-sections "soon" enough.
Most ob's will tell you that vaginal should always be done unless there is a medical reason otherwise (mom has health complications, babies are premies, etc). A c-section is NOT easier on the baby, the mother's recovery time is about double over vaginal and it is a major/dangerous invasive surgery! (that should only be done when medically necessary).
The problem is that in our (meaning professional women like me) desperate attempts to control everything, c-sections are becoming more popular and women who demand it will use another doctor if a doctor tells them they won't do it just to accomodate scheduling.
No it doesn't make you 'less of a mom' and yes it is a personal choice, but it's a choice that a lot of women are making without the full facts.
And there is no medical evidence that c-sections are safer for moms and babies when it's a normal pregnancy.
By Anonymous, on 10:59 AM
wow, i had a c-section and ended up in the hospital for 2 weeks due to complications. a few weeks later my cousin actually "gave birth" and she was out in 12 hours. too bad she didn't decide to take the easy way out too. wtf? i didn't know that c-sections were supposed to be easy and painless--i guess someone forgot to tell my doctors too.
and what's up with celebrities having their babies at the same time? first TomKat and Brooke now Gwen and Brangelina--i'm getting a strange end of days vibe--and the whole new messiah vs. poor Suri doesn't help much.
By pq, on 11:15 AM
What do you mean by "c-section is NOT easier on the baby"? A baby is delivered quicker through a c-section than being squeezed through the birth canal sometimes for hours. I don't think either of them sound too "easy" for the baby, but vaginal birth doesn't sound too fun for them. What you're really arguing about here is what's "easier" for the mother.
In my case (both times) I had complications during labor, and both C-Sections were medically necessary, or both my babies and I would have died. So a C-Section was "easier" for all of us.
By Anonymous, on 11:17 AM
way to go gwen. too cute.
By Anonymous, on 11:19 AM
"Giving birth" is "giving birth" whether you're "giving birth" vaginally or "giving birth" via C-section. Some of you sound like 12 year olds. Grow up.
By Anonymous, on 11:20 AM
Ulp...you all are grossing me out! I thought the Stork brought babies! First Santy Claus and the Energizer Bunny and now this! Next you'll be telling me the lady that sneaks into my room at night and sticks her hand under my pillow isn't really the Tooth Fairy?? Actually you may be right about that one, 'cause she never leaves me any money just empty liquor bottles. I think she said her name was Tara Something-or-other.
By Matt, on 11:25 AM
Anon 11:17...we aren't talking about emergency c-sections like yours. OBVIOUSLY...if the baby is in danger, a c-section is easier/ better/ healthier/ smarter etc.
The issue is whether the mothers CHOOSING a c-section for the reason of it being "less traumatic" on a baby. Is there any evidence that that is the case?
Simply because we don't think it sounds like fun to hang out in a vagina for 8 hours doesn't mean that an unborn baby is traumatized by that. (Oh dear....now look at that can of worms I just opened.) Babies are forced to scream and cry right afterwards after both kinds of births. Arguably, it's the leaving the womb that sucks...not the means by which you leave it.
Matt, dear, sorry to traumatize you. Surely there's a womb somewhere for you to crawl into?
By Anonymous, on 11:40 AM
c-sections that are necessary are fine by me. People that select to do them as a personal choice leave a foul taste in my mouth.
By Anonymous, on 11:47 AM
10:59, If you're saying you work for an asshole attorney who makes a living from suing doctors for malpractice which is a major cause of why insurance rates are so high that most of the people I know can't afford insurance because of it and really good doctors are leaving my state because they can't afford malpractice insurance either - and it's especially bad because most of the cases are bullshit because the doctors did not commit malpractice and scumbags are just looking to get rich as are the attorneys they retain to sue the doctors - then I really don't give a shit what you have to say on the issue.
By Anonymous, on 11:53 AM
oh holy shit. give me a break. you people are actually arguing over how people choose to give birth. you want someone telling you what to do with your body and baby? No. so stfu.
and how fucking high and mighty to name your baby "New Messiah." Anti-Christ anyone?
By Anonymous, on 11:58 AM
Congrats to both the Jolie-Pitt & Stefani-Rossdale families!
I love Brad & Angelina together.
By Anonymous, on 11:59 AM
This shit is snakes on a plane man... snakes on a motha fuckin plane.
By Anonymous, on 12:00 PM
Anon 11:53. I defend doctors in med mal cases. Shut your face. "does a lot of medical malpractice work" doesn't mean you sue doctors. But thanks for playing.
And thank you for letting me know that "you don't really give a shit what I have to say". It just so happens I read these ob-gyn's charts all day. I'm just reporting what I read.
Take a prozac cybil.
By Anonymous, on 12:11 PM
well gwen is looking rather unattractive as a fat lady..
By Anonymous, on 12:32 PM
To the idiot who posted first...try double checking your facts before you post.
"Nouveau" and "Nouvel" are both masculin adjectives for "new"...Nouveau is used when the word (usually noun) following it begins with a consonant, Nouvel is used when the word following it begins with a vowel. For example, "le nouvel an".
Imbécile
By Anonymous, on 12:32 PM
People, it doesn't matter how a baby exits the womb. What matters is the loving family waiting for it. Both of these babies obviously will have wonderful families to grow up in. Maybe one of them can even adopt SPF and his sibling.
As a mother of 2, I can attest that when you are handed your baby, you are also handed your load of guilt. Guilt for what you did or didn't do during pregnancy. Guilt for what you did or didn't do during labor. And guilt for every choice you make raising your child. Why don't you all find someone else to pick on, like murderers and child abusers.
By Anonymous, on 12:37 PM
The baby is 'New Messiah'? Oh wow. I wouldn't have thought that anyone could think up worse names than Gwyneth Paltrow and Paula Yates combined, but Jolie has succeeded.
Am i the only one getting a Dune reference here? Genetically superior child from the desert who leads humanity into a bold new era or something like that.
By sam991, on 12:39 PM
3 years ago, the very idea of Jolie wathcing over kids would have been laughed at: she was perceived as a wacko, the butt of comics everywehre for frenching her brother at some awards (classic SNL bit), for being with Billy Bob and all their blood fetish, and so on.
You have to love kids: they can make you go from nuts to saint in one minute if you know how to accesorize them.
Maybe OJ should adopt....
As for the french thing, yes "Nouvel" is one way to spell 'new' but it is the MASCULINE word for it, equivalent to 'Nouveau', NOT 'nouvelle', so its still a fuckup in the sense that it is the masculin version of the word 'new'.
Really should have asked someone how to spell.
Right up there with Sacha Cohen whose name in Russian and other slavic languages is short for Alexander, hence a guys name.
As for Shiloh, that must be like Suri.... make nice with the chosen people who will be bankrolling your next film.
Hell, Anthony Pelicano wanted to convert so he could do better business in hollywood.
By Anonymous, on 1:06 PM
>The baby is 'New Messiah'? Oh wow. I wouldn't have thought that anyone could think up
>worse names than Gwyneth Paltrow and Paula Yates combined, but Jolie has succeeded.
'New Messiah'? Ohhhh brother.....
>Am i the only one getting a Dune reference here? Genetically superior child
>from the desert who leads humanity into a bold new era or something like that.
Now that you mention it.....its right on the money dude.
I know guys wanna drill her but she gives me the creeps.
Even more than when she was with that hillbilly husband.
By Anonymous, on 1:09 PM
I just don't understand how you have all missed the obvious nod to Neil Diamond.....remember "Shiloh"?
By Anonymous, on 2:22 PM
I'm learning Russian, and in Russian "shiloh" means "awl". Funny.
By Anonymous, on 3:47 PM
So the name is really something like "the (manly) new, pretty messiah"... and Pitt? Well that doesn't really belong now does it. But thanks for lending your quality genetic make-up to fertilize me, Brad!
How long before she dumps him now?
By Anonymous, on 3:50 PM
you guys are stupid. c-sections are used when your in labor too long or when the contractions dont let ur vaginal walls open up enough for the baby to come out. this can be caused by alot of excercising. gwen stefani had a very athletic body with tight abs. when the muscles are tightended its very hard for the baby to push its way out so they use c-sections.
oh yea and fuck angelina jolie. that stupid home wrecking whore. her and brad can fall straight to hell.
By Anonymous, on 4:05 PM
does no one realize that Shiloh was an historic civil war battle that resulted in more casualties than we had lost in every other war COMBINED up to that point? anyone? hmmm...guess not. Hey everybody....READ A BOOK!!!!! it might make you smarter
By Anonymous, on 4:06 PM
Wow. Who knew so many experts on so many different subjects read little ol' idontlikeyouinthatway?
Between the medical doctors, the linguistics experts and the history PhDs I feel like I'm getting a real edumacation here; for free!
By solid state, on 4:32 PM
Angie had a C-section because the baby was breach...I tend to believe this...unless she purposely scheduled a c-section to avoid the papparzzi, but she doesn't seem the type.
By Anonymous, on 5:00 PM
I had a c section, honestly, because I was afraid of the pain.. I will admit it. Not for reasons like I wanted to stay tight or whatever, I did not plan the date untill just a few days before. I have no pain tolerance, so I did it, and I am glad I did
By Anonymous, on 5:17 PM
Brad and Angelina are both assholes who are completely full of themselves. No sane, rational human being names their child the equivalent of "New Messiah". A bit pompous? How shitty of them to presume that their child will be so extraordinary just because its mother and father are beautiful. That's basically what they've gone and done and it's totally ridiculous.
I don't care how much money these assholes give the Namibian people...they are still tacky and pathetic. What ever makes you feel better I suppose...
By Anonymous, on 5:49 PM
Nouvel is the french term for new, but it's masculine. They're stupid for naming their girl Nouvel instead of Nouvelle.
By Anonymous, on 6:44 PM
The JO PITTS named their kid Shilo Pitt as in shallow pit. Give me a F-cking break. Don't these ass stars ever think further than their erections??????????
By Anonymous, on 8:06 PM
Everyone is talking about the name Nouvel being masculine. What about Shiloh? That's a masculine name too. Did these idiots have a girl or a boy? WTF!
They are nothing but attention whores...I don't care how "secluded" Namibia is. They are just asking to be hounded now.
By Anonymous, on 8:41 PM
C-sections are not just for urgent reason, some c-sections are elective and rumour has tha tmany celeb's have that at 8-8 1/2 months because most of the stretching of the stomach occurs in the last month of pregnancy. It's also a lot easier than working for. Freeze ya, cut ya, sew ya - and bing baby in your arms. Actually it's a real controvesry the number of women who are getting them and the number of doctors who performing when they aren't necessary for mother/baby safety.
Lazy celebrities.
By Mackoroni, on 9:41 PM
Are you people all for "the woman must suffer for hours and hours" ??? Why are you against c-sections ? have you ever heard of babies that DIED BECAUUSE the mom had c-section ?? I have 2 children, the first birth was natural, the second a planned C. And If i`ll have more babies, Ill di C`s !!! Do you think is fun to piss yourself for 6 months whenever you lough ??? Grow up ! It`s the woman`s choise
By Anonymous, on 12:33 AM
Angelina's baby was born at night - a rather odd time to schedule a caesarian. Sounds like she legitimately needed one.
And to the idiot who thinks women who are fit are more likely to need a caesarian - wtf kind of nonsense is that?!
By Anonymous, on 4:14 AM
Jolie is just an act. Pure act. She pretends she's this strong woman and then she met Brad Pitt and fell head over heels and got knocked up as a way to snag him. Pathetic. She's nothing better than the trailer park girls who do the same thing. I'm sure it will last *rolls eyes*.
Well, among those 2 ladies who had babies, hundreds of thousands of other mothers gave birth on the same day, and I could care less about all of them.
Being a guy, I didn't know about that herpes thing, but that explains all the fuss about Hollywood C-sections as of late. Dame hos (or is it hoes?), and they are reproducing . . . man, I wish God would hurry up with the Apocalypse. I can't take much more of this.
By Anonymous, on 5:27 AM
"They are nothing but attention whores...I don't care how "secluded" Namibia is. They are just asking to be hounded now.
-- I agree. --
I wonder how many people died waiting for medical attention because Angelina had every doctor waiting on her in the already poorly maintained hospital in Namibia?
By Anonymous, on 5:30 AM
12:33am "It`s the woman`s choise "
Yes, certainly you are right, but you are missing the point. For many women, they can't afford proper healthcare, let alone a C-section. It's not possible for some ladies, but celebs think it is their right, privilege and they bump other people down the waiting list because they throw money at doctors.
anonymous 5:30am is right in asking how many Namibians died or didn't get care just so Jolie could have her precious "messiah" taken care of by all the best medicare workers in the country and make sure her C-section (regardless of why it was performed) was taken care of. THAT, is truly pathetic, so don't miss the point, ladies.
By Anonymous, on 9:50 AM
May 30, 2006 5:49 PM
May 30, 2006 6:44 PM
May 30, 2006 8:06 PM
May 30, 2006 8:41 PM
May 30, 2006 9:41 PM
May 31, 2006 5:27 AM
May 31, 2006 5:30 AM
Plenty more of ya, but I'm tired:
Anyway, I've never read so many ignorant, backward, idiotic, jealous, off the spool, dumbass, beyond stupid stuff in all my blogging life. You all sound just absofreakinglutly off your nut, and I bet everyone of you blokes are Bush voting, trailier park living, cousin screwing Americans who still hate that the Golden Couple blew itself to smithereens and left you without a fantasy to dive into to escape your dull as dishwater existence.
God you're a seriously boring and never ending complaining lot if I ever saw one.
By Anonymous, on 10:52 AM
May 31, 2006 9:50 AM
My GOD I've not ever read someone with no experience in Nambia write so much based on such massive misinformation! It is my homeland, and you are insulting to say the least. The most sad part of what you say here is that many will believe you over me who IS a citizen of Namibia. The couple have done no such thing as you speak. They have added to the lives of more people here than I'm sure to realize you have where ever you are in the world. The Pitt family have done more for this country in a matter of months than has been done for us in more than 10yrs and if you have any troubles with that don't worry because your opinion is made up out of hate for the Pitt's family, and really having nothing to do with caring about the women of my country or their childbearing. You are more worse than a hypocrite and I hope you never find your way to our shores.
By Anonymous, on 11:05 AM
Actually you are right. I haven't done much for your country. I sponser a child from Sri Lanka and another child from Uganda. I'm sorry I don't make hoards of money by pretending a.k.a. 'acting', so I haven't gotten around to sponsering a child from Namibia yet. So, I guess you are right, I haven't added anything to Namibia, and if I ever do, I won't have my press people announcing it to the world.
By Anonymous, on 1:48 PM
10:52am May 31 . . . um, I'm not an American, so I never voted for Bush. Sorry to burst your bubble, but not everyone who blogs is American.
By the way, if you are a lefty, shouldn't you be saving your fighting words for the little guy and not the rich, talentless, dolts that add nothing to society except a good laugh? Well, I guess recent studies show that laughing lengthens ones life, so I'll keep laughing at them and at you for being retarded enough to defend celebrity douchebags.
On one last note, if you hadn't noticed . . . this site doesn't exist to feed the egos of the 'celebs' and watch their big, empty heads grow, it's to bring them back to reality (not that they read these --- not that they can read at all) and remind them that they are the jack-assed jokers here to entertain us, the real royalty of the world. They aren't royalty, and shouldn't be treated as such . . . so let's all remember that. You (10:52 am) are a joker though, so entertain me some more with your nearly incoherent babble . . . you know you want to.
By Anonymous, on 1:55 PM
Um, I'm Namibian as well May 31 9:40 am. I don't think it's right that those celebs are just using our country. It's completely pointless. They are filthy rich and can leave whenever they want (they have no intentions of staying there permenantly), so what's the point of going there, dropping a little bit of their cash, using the medical facilities and then leaving? They are users and you should be ashamed to defend them. What about our own people? Defend them instead.
By Anonymous, on 6:08 PM
I'm an amphibian.
By kermit the frog, on 6:26 PM
"Nouvel" is spelled incorrectly. Angelina and Brad are idiots. The baby's a fucking girl- isn't Angelina's mother French? Oy.
Then again, "Mesiah" is actually spelled M-E-S-S-I-A-H, so....ahem.
By Anonymous, on 4:30 AM
THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE A STATEMENT WITH THAT NAME. IT WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT TO SAY THEY HAVE ACHIEVED THEIR GOAL. BUT MAYBE WE MISJUDGE, MAYBE THERE IS A GREAT AUNT SHILOH OR GRANDPA NOUVEL THEY ARE TRYING TO HONOR, INSTEAD OF COMING OFF LIKE THE POMPOUS ASSES THEY ARE BY NAMING THEIR CHILD THE NEW MESSIAH. MAYBE WE ARE READING TO MUCH INTO THEIR HONEST INTENTIONS. WHATEVER THE SITUATION MAYBE THAT CHILD HAS A LONG ARDOUS LIFE AHEAD OF HER WITH A NAME LIKE THAT. WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING!!!!!!!!
IT IS SCARY NAMING YOUR CHILD. ANY PARENT OUT THERE KNOWS THAT. YOU DON'T WANT TO SADDLE YOUR CHILD WITH A NAME THAT WILL HURT/EMBARRASS/HUMILIATE ETC. HIM/HER AND SCAR HIM/HER FOR THE REST OF HIS/HER LIFE. SO FAR I'VE HEARD SHI-HOE, SHOVEL BUT WHO KNOWS HOW MANY ARE OUT THERE? WHAT THE HELL WHERE THEY THINKING??? IN ALL HONESTY I WOULD LIKE AN ANWSER TO THIS QUESTION. IF ANYBODY OF BRANGELINA'S PEOPLE READ THIS 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY WON'T, LET THEM KNOW, PLEASE. I THINK THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD LIKE AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT CUTE LITTLE NAME. POOOOR POOOOR KID (MILLIONS AND BAJILLIONS ASIDE)
I BID YOU ADIEU OR IS IT ADIUE? WHAT EVER 'TIL NEVER.
By Anonymous, on 12:19 PM
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