Oh, so now you're trying your hand at moralizing? Seriously? I'll bet if she was a fresh, pretty blonde with a big rack she could exhale crack smoke into your grandma's face and you wouldn't have a thing to say about it.
Winehouse's a colossal fuckup, but she is incredibly talented. Are we to discredit all musicians who were fuckups and addicts now? Watch out Billie Holiday, Keith Richards, Kurt Cobain and company. I don't usually comment on this site, but people who put image before content are like melanoma on the overtanned skin of our society ---- and that goes for both you and Todd.
The awards are for achievement in recorded music. That's irrespective of an artist's personal life. Remember that the music biz is filled with depraved individuals. Many would have to be disqualified if you take into account lifestyles.
Natalie's biggest hit was jacking her old man's music. That's the only reason SHE got a Grammy! It's not like they gave to a F#@ up with no talent. Britney wasn't even there!
amy winehouse is a musician not a role model. she is a drugged up crack whore but that has nothing to do with her craft. whatever is going on in her personal life should make the grammy academy think twice about giving her awards.
Great thoughts, Natalie. Let's equip all the awards committees - for everything, to be fair - with a full contingent of private investigators, lawyers, judges, and juries. Only when a fair and thorough examination of a potential winner's character passes muster will an award be granted (while you're at it, Natalie, please tell us what the standards should be, given the great achievement you had in ... being born to somebody very talented).
Or we could just evaluate the work, and leave the character judgments to the loudmouths who live their lives on the sidelines. They seem willing to work for free.
Giving her a Grammy in no way commends her lifestyle. It would be different if it were the equivalent of a white-person-eligible NAACP Image Award (I'm sure there's other similar awards; none are coming to mind).
The award is related to her music, not her behavior.
Personally, I thought it was disgraceful years ago when Jethro Tull won a Grammy over Metallica. Rewarding a man for all that flute-playing - they were promoting the gay agenda, I tell ya! And another thing...wait, hold on a second...HEY YOU KIDS! GET OFF MY LAWN!
If this bitch was more talented then people wouldn't care about her drug habit. She sucks but she doesn't suck as bad as most of the people on the charts, and she's no musical genius. Stop trying to force this shit on us. I'd rather listen to the more talented dead ones.
Oh whatever. It's got to suck to be known primarily for your father's success. Then a crackhead goes and makes better music than you ever did. And gets recognized for it!
Hey, ten bucks says that when Amy sells those Grammys to buy more drugs, Natalie buys 'em for her mantle. Jealous b*tch.
Oh shut up with your, "can you seriously compare Winehouse to Cobain?" Obviously not; she's not dead yet. She hasn't even been given the chance to come up with legendary music; she's only been famous for so long. Christ, just give people a chance. It's a lot harder to make it in this industry than it used to be; no one's running done Sunset Boulevard anymore trying to find the next big thing; you have to make yourself plus avoid the insane amount of paparazzi. The music business is over and done with; it's up to the artist's now. Now that Amy knows what she can accomplish maybe she'll clean herself up a little and start showing up to all her shows. It doesn't matter her personal life, as long as she keeps up with the music. Right now the only thing disappointing about her is that she doesn't show up to her concerts, not the drugs; that should be expected by now. No, no one's endorsing it, but come on, you try living that hectic of a life.
Not that I give a rat's ass about Winehouse, but Natalie Cole can't talk about anyone when it comes to drugs. She did as many drugs as Winehouse did, if not more. Apparently, she sang most of "This Will Be" when she was high as a kite. Her son almost drowned years ago when Natalie got high and didn't realize that he had fallen in the pool.
In regards to comparing Cobain to Winehouse- No, that's clearly not what I was saying at all. I'm speaking on the principal of judging music solely on the music, and not the artist's personal life.
I personally am not a fan of Winehouse, but shit; I respect her right to win awards despite her drug-use.
I just don't think the personal should affect the professional.
yeah, let her die first, then we can judge to see if what she did was any good retrospectively. Personally i can't stand her fucking voice, personality, face etc.
So doing drugs=bad singer/artist? She's an idiot. If she heard her music she'd realize her battles are partly the source of her creativity. Who the FKUC said Amy was a role model or had to be one. Puh-leeze. Let her be.
In 2000, Cole released an autobiography, Angel on My Shoulder, which described her battle with drugs during much of her life.
In the book, Cole admitted to using LSD, heroin and crack cocaine. Cole said she began recreational drug use while attending the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. She also disclosed that she was arrested in Toronto, Canada for possession of heroin in 1975. Cole continued to spiral out of control - including one incident where she refused to evacuate a burning building, and another where her young son Robert nearly drowned in the family swimming pool while she and her first husband, the late Reverend Marvin Yancy, were on a drug binge. She did eventually enter rehab in 1983.
The awards are for music, not clean living. While I agree with the sentiment about rewarding people for bad behavior, but that is better applied to kids than adults. I think that applies more to Kanye West. That asshole needs to stop using his mother's death as a tool to grandstand. He shamed himself and his mother when he did that.
would it make a difference if we did not know she was a crack head? somebody but themselves on the line for you when you had a drug issue and we still listened to your music and loved you all the same. you came out about your drug issue after the fact. whatever no i dont listen to amys music but anybody thats doing their thing, go for it
"I'll bet if she was a fresh, pretty blonde with a big rack she could exhale crack smoke into your grandma's face and you wouldn't have a thing to say about it."
Yeah, this blog usually goes easy on blonde girls.
Who loved the fact that she sang (and I use that term loosely) "rehab?" I laughed so hard, I couldn't believe she could actually sing that and keep a straight face seeing as how she apparently said "yes, yes, yes" to it.
uh... no one is "rewarding bad behaviour" they are AWARDING her extraordinary talent. she's a hot mess but it doesn't take away from her amazing voice & a great album... not that anyone cares what natalie cole thinks nyways.
Ya lets not give any awards to fat people either, they suck. Oh and uglies. And annoying ones, they piss me off and their speeches are terrible. The grammy choices are already crappy enough without taking into account whether they are enabling the artist or not.
I am not a teenager, and am an Amy Winehouse fan. She plays several instruments and in my opinion is very talented. Yes she is very screwed up as a person. The awards went to the right person. I have always been a fan of Natalie, but where does SHE get off judging ANYONE? As anonymous 3:54 states above, Natalie was very messed up for a very long time. Thankfully, she's all straightened out. But she is still in no position to be high and mighty. And if all musicians and singers were supposed to be role models, too, there wouldn't be anyone making cds. Even the Carpenters and Beach Boys were strung out in their day.
Amy does play instruments and she played guitar on her last tour. I'd like to say it's heartening to see that people have common sense here - I haven't seen anyone condone her drug use. If anything it's just really, really sad. I'm not a fan of award shows but I felt that they were well deserved. There is no one out there of her age that is doing what she does. I've seen her live and even at her most fucked up she is capable of so much more than our Christinas, Beyonces and Rihannas. Her music (and voice) comes straight from her heart and that's why people have connected with her even if they don't agree with her lifestyle. As for Natalie criticising - sounds like nothing buy hypocritical sour grapes to me. Come back with your comments when you are in any way musically relevant. As a recovering drug addict she should at least show some compassion.
isn't the point of a grammy to award phenomonal musical talent? it's not to reward or punish for being a hot mess. what do the 2 have to do with each other? girl's messed up, but she has pipes, and that's what a grammy is for!
Natalie who? I've heard of her talented father but in Europe her name doesn't stand for much... She's one judgmental jealouse bitch and with her drug record she's no shining example herself. She achieved nothing with her patronising speech but personal embarassment.
Natalie the shining megastar (NOT) should become a preacher and share her hard-earned knowledge with a bunch of idiots living in the same lalaland as her. If that woman has been in the music industry for 25 years and did drugs herself what the fuck is she on about??
Let's strip her off her Grammy's ‘cos she doesn't deserve them anyway! See how much noise she'll make then! Oh, and in the meantime, let's dig out Elvis and Cobain, they've a lot to answer for as well – we’re all like a bunch of sheep and lack sane personal judgment, right?
Fuck Natalie Cole and her self-rightious bullshit. What is her claim to fame? "Pink Cadillac?" Oh, and her shitastic duo with her dead father? If her father wasn't famous, this stupid bitch would have been nothing but another welfare crackhead with 16 kids. She has NO fucking business criticizing anyone else.
I don't give a rat's ass about this Natalie Cole bitch.
What I DO care about is why IDontLikeYouInThatWay.com is posting this with the headline "Natalie Cole States the Obvious."
I usually agree with IDLYITW and it's pretty lame that they're supporting this overly-opinionated, self-important, tool-y idea that awards shouldn't be given to people with messed up personal lives.
Natalie, you sound jealous and racist. Bet if that was Whitney Houston that won, you'd have nothing but praise. You called Winehouse crazy, are you a doctor? Tell you what IS crazy, you doing drugs with a REVEREND! Natalie, did you give that poor man drugs???
Why can't you just accept the fact that Amy has talent and be happy for her? Sour grapes, hate and resentment make for a very unhappy life. I've never heard Amy sing, but I have heard you sing, Natalie, and I think you sing like an angel. The duet, Unforgetable, is one of my favorite records of all time. But now, when I hear it, instead of enjoying it, I'll be thinking about what a hypocrite you are.
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By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 19:10:49
Oh, so now you're trying your hand at moralizing? Seriously? I'll bet if she was a fresh, pretty blonde with a big rack she could exhale crack smoke into your grandma's face and you wouldn't have a thing to say about it.
Winehouse's a colossal fuckup, but she is incredibly talented. Are we to discredit all musicians who were fuckups and addicts now? Watch out Billie Holiday, Keith Richards, Kurt Cobain and company. I don't usually comment on this site, but people who put image before content are like melanoma on the overtanned skin of our society ---- and that goes for both you and Todd.
By Arr, on February 11, 2008 19:10:53
According to the ratings nobody watched the Grammy awards and nobody cares.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 19:13:36
"Pimp C" was part of the Grammy's memorial this year, so that's how far in the gutter the music industry is.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 19:15:58
Who the fuck cares what she does with her personal life?
Awards for music should be given out just for that- the music.
These aren't life-time acheivement awards or anything.
If we judged artists by their drug-use, we've have a very different artistic history in varying realms of art.
Most often the geniuses are the fucking "crazy" or drug-dependent ones. (Jimi Hendrix, Tennessee Williams, Kurt Kobain, etc?)
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 19:20:01
19:10:53 wants everyone to die young and have fucked up kids.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 19:20:32
I want to be Jenny's sex slave!!!!
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 19:20:52
Shit, 19:10 I must have been writing my comment at the same time you posted yours.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 19:21:09
Oh, keep telling people it's ok to do drugs and die young because you like their music. What a selfish life you live.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 19:23:45
Amy Crackhouse doesn't make music. She wobbles behind a mic and clucks out songs like a chicken.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 19:25:51
Did someone just seriously compare Cobain to Winehouse?
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 19:28:27
The awards are for achievement in recorded music. That's irrespective of an artist's personal life. Remember that the music biz is filled with depraved individuals. Many would have to be disqualified if you take into account lifestyles.
By catman, on February 11, 2008 19:30:38
Natalie's biggest hit was jacking her old man's music. That's the only reason SHE got a Grammy! It's not like they gave to a F#@ up with no talent. Britney wasn't even there!
By Ben Franklin, on February 11, 2008 19:36:15
amy winehouse is a musician not a role model. she is a drugged up crack whore but that has nothing to do with her craft. whatever is going on in her personal life should make the grammy academy think twice about giving her awards.
By Prettyboy, on February 11, 2008 19:38:11
Natalie Cole is 58? wow! I take back everything i said, can u be my Sugar Momma Natalie??
By Ben Franklin, on February 11, 2008 19:41:37
Great thoughts, Natalie. Let's equip all the awards committees - for everything, to be fair - with a full contingent of private investigators, lawyers, judges, and juries. Only when a fair and thorough examination of a potential winner's character passes muster will an award be granted (while you're at it, Natalie, please tell us what the standards should be, given the great achievement you had in ... being born to somebody very talented).
Or we could just evaluate the work, and leave the character judgments to the loudmouths who live their lives on the sidelines. They seem willing to work for free.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 19:48:55
Giving her a Grammy in no way commends her lifestyle. It would be different if it were the equivalent of a white-person-eligible NAACP Image Award (I'm sure there's other similar awards; none are coming to mind).
The award is related to her music, not her behavior.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 20:01:35
It's the Grammy's, for Pete's sake. Even the music industry doesn't take them seriously. Sheesh.
By rottenkitty, on February 11, 2008 20:05:37
Personally, I thought it was disgraceful years ago when Jethro Tull won a Grammy over Metallica. Rewarding a man for all that flute-playing - they were promoting the gay agenda, I tell ya! And another thing...wait, hold on a second...HEY YOU KIDS! GET OFF MY LAWN!
By Grumpy Old Man (dead ringer for Natalie), on February 11, 2008 20:13:03
If this bitch was more talented then people wouldn't care about her drug habit. She sucks but she doesn't suck as bad as most of the people on the charts, and she's no musical genius. Stop trying to force this shit on us. I'd rather listen to the more talented dead ones.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 20:16:26
Oh whatever. It's got to suck to be known primarily for your father's success. Then a crackhead goes and makes better music than you ever did. And gets recognized for it!
Hey, ten bucks says that when Amy sells those Grammys to buy more drugs, Natalie buys 'em for her mantle. Jealous b*tch.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 20:43:30
Oh shut up with your, "can you seriously compare Winehouse to Cobain?" Obviously not; she's not dead yet. She hasn't even been given the chance to come up with legendary music; she's only been famous for so long. Christ, just give people a chance. It's a lot harder to make it in this industry than it used to be; no one's running done Sunset Boulevard anymore trying to find the next big thing; you have to make yourself plus avoid the insane amount of paparazzi. The music business is over and done with; it's up to the artist's now. Now that Amy knows what she can accomplish maybe she'll clean herself up a little and start showing up to all her shows. It doesn't matter her personal life, as long as she keeps up with the music. Right now the only thing disappointing about her is that she doesn't show up to her concerts, not the drugs; that should be expected by now. No, no one's endorsing it, but come on, you try living that hectic of a life.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 21:04:25
Not that I give a rat's ass about Winehouse, but Natalie Cole can't talk about anyone when it comes to drugs. She did as many drugs as Winehouse did, if not more. Apparently, she sang most of "This Will Be" when she was high as a kite. Her son almost drowned years ago when Natalie got high and didn't realize that he had fallen in the pool.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 21:23:46
Amy Winehouse is stupid for not learning from people like Natalie Cole's mistakes. Natalie lived and learned, and I don't think Amy will do the same.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 21:42:24
In regards to comparing Cobain to Winehouse-
No, that's clearly not what I was saying at all.
I'm speaking on the principal of judging music solely on the music, and not the artist's personal life.
I personally am not a fan of Winehouse, but shit; I respect her right to win awards despite her drug-use.
I just don't think the personal should affect the professional.
-19:20:01
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 21:57:06
Amy Winehouse smokes crack. She's a crackhead. At least she doesn't have kids so she's still a better person than Britney Spears.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 21:59:25
Amy Crackhouse doesn't make music. She wobbles behind a mic and clucks out songs like a chicken.
19:25 wins
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 22:02:48
yeah, let her die first, then we can judge to see if what she did was any good retrospectively. Personally i can't stand her fucking voice, personality, face etc.
By anonymous, on February 11, 2008 23:05:09
amy is a fuck up, it is not fair she gets grammy or any media attention. she needs to get her shit in order.
By tina, on February 12, 2008 00:14:08
So doing drugs=bad singer/artist? She's an idiot. If she heard her music she'd realize her battles are partly the source of her creativity. Who the FKUC said Amy was a role model or had to be one. Puh-leeze. Let her be.
By rita, on February 12, 2008 00:45:31
Aren't the Grammys supposed to be about music, not lifestyle?
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 01:53:45
In 2000, Cole released an autobiography, Angel on My Shoulder, which described her battle with drugs during much of her life.
In the book, Cole admitted to using LSD, heroin and crack cocaine.
Cole said she began recreational drug use while attending the University of Massachusetts at Amherst.
She also disclosed that she was arrested in Toronto, Canada for possession of heroin in 1975.
Cole continued to spiral out of control - including one incident where she refused to evacuate a burning building, and another where her young son Robert nearly drowned in the family swimming pool while she and her first husband, the late Reverend Marvin Yancy, were on a drug binge. She did eventually enter rehab in 1983.
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 03:54:31
The awards are for music, not clean living. While I agree with the sentiment about rewarding people for bad behavior, but that is better applied to kids than adults. I think that applies more to Kanye West. That asshole needs to stop using his mother's death as a tool to grandstand. He shamed himself and his mother when he did that.
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 05:20:03
would it make a difference if we did not know she was a crack head? somebody but themselves on the line for you when you had a drug issue and we still listened to your music and loved you all the same. you came out about your drug issue after the fact. whatever no i dont listen to amys music but anybody thats doing their thing, go for it
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 06:18:41
Anyone else think Amy is the next Milli Vanilli lip-syncher? Who really does the vocals on her
CDs?
Just askin'.
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 06:21:35
"I'll bet if she was a fresh, pretty blonde with a big rack she could exhale crack smoke into your grandma's face and you wouldn't have a thing to say about it."
Yeah, this blog usually goes easy on blonde girls.
What a retard you are.
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 07:56:32
Who loved the fact that she sang (and I use that term loosely) "rehab?" I laughed so hard, I couldn't believe she could actually sing that and keep a straight face seeing as how she apparently said "yes, yes, yes" to it.
By HAHAHA, on February 12, 2008 08:34:41
uh... no one is "rewarding
bad behaviour" they are AWARDING
her extraordinary talent. she's a
hot mess but it doesn't take away from
her amazing voice & a great album... not
that anyone cares what natalie cole thinks nyways.
By cristina, on February 12, 2008 08:56:23
Where did all these weird Amy Winehouse fan-tards come from? You all must be teenagers.
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 08:59:49
Ya lets not give any awards to fat people either, they suck. Oh and uglies. And annoying ones, they piss me off and their speeches are terrible. The grammy choices are already crappy enough without taking into account whether they are enabling the artist or not.
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 09:20:38
Does Amy Winehouse play an instrument? Guitar? Piano? Anything?
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 09:23:00
I am not a teenager, and am an Amy Winehouse fan. She plays several instruments and in my opinion is very talented. Yes she is very screwed up as a person. The awards went to the right person. I have always been a fan of Natalie, but where does SHE get off judging ANYONE? As anonymous 3:54 states above, Natalie was very messed up for a very long time. Thankfully, she's all straightened out. But she is still in no position to be high and mighty. And if all musicians and singers were supposed to be role models, too, there wouldn't be anyone making cds. Even the Carpenters and Beach Boys were strung out in their day.
By marybeth, on February 12, 2008 09:42:09
have any of you listened to her album? she can sing, i don´t give a shit if she smokes crack all day long, thats her choice!
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 09:42:40
"Does Amy Winehouse play an instrument? Guitar? Piano? Anything?"
I hear she plays several pipe instruments.
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 09:44:02
Yes Amy Winehouse plays the crack pipe and the skin flute.
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 09:45:07
Amy Winehouse's fans are enablers just like everyone else in her life. The fact that she hasn't yet died of an overdose is a miracle.
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 09:47:22
Natalie Cole believes that Rihana and Beyonce are more deserving yet neither writes their own songs.
Amy Winehouse writes, sings, and does play instruments. Rihanna sings what others write; we used to call that karoke.
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 09:52:27
The grammys give "awards" to anyone these days is all a fucking joke that show is garbage now thats why garbage gets rewarded
By jake, on February 12, 2008 09:57:20
"Natalie Cole believes that Rihana and Beyonce are more deserving yet neither writes their own songs."
Oh, look, there's that elephant in the corner...
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 10:07:20
Nowhere in Amy's bio does it say she plays instruments.
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 10:12:55
Amy does play instruments and she played guitar on her last tour. I'd like to say it's heartening to see that people have common sense here - I haven't seen anyone condone her drug use. If anything it's just really, really sad. I'm not a fan of award shows but I felt that they were well deserved. There is no one out there of her age that is doing what she does. I've seen her live and even at her most fucked up she is capable of so much more than our Christinas, Beyonces and Rihannas. Her music (and voice) comes straight from her heart and that's why people have connected with her even if they don't agree with her lifestyle. As for Natalie criticising - sounds like nothing buy hypocritical sour grapes to me. Come back with your comments when you are in any way musically relevant. As a recovering drug addict she should at least show some compassion.
By Samantha , on February 12, 2008 11:09:55
isn't the point of a grammy to award phenomonal musical talent? it's not to reward or punish for being a hot mess. what do the 2 have to do with each other? girl's messed up, but she has pipes, and that's what a grammy is for!
By carmen, on February 12, 2008 12:02:57
Natalie who? I've heard of her talented father but in Europe her name doesn't stand for much... She's one judgmental jealouse bitch and with her drug record she's no shining example herself. She achieved nothing with her patronising speech but personal embarassment.
By Lila, on February 12, 2008 12:51:40
Natalie the shining megastar (NOT) should become a preacher and share her hard-earned knowledge with a bunch of idiots living in the same lalaland as her. If that woman has been in the music industry for 25 years and did drugs herself what the fuck is she on about??
Let's strip her off her Grammy's ‘cos she doesn't deserve them anyway! See how much noise she'll make then! Oh, and in the meantime, let's dig out Elvis and Cobain, they've a lot to answer for as well – we’re all like a bunch of sheep and lack sane personal judgment, right?
By da german, on February 12, 2008 13:01:14
Don't throw stones at people in glasshouses Natalie!
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 13:37:10
Fuck Natalie Cole and her self-rightious bullshit. What is her claim to fame? "Pink Cadillac?" Oh, and her shitastic duo with her dead father? If her father wasn't famous, this stupid bitch would have been nothing but another welfare crackhead with 16 kids. She has NO fucking business criticizing anyone else.
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 19:17:34
I don't give a rat's ass about this Natalie Cole bitch.
What I DO care about is why IDontLikeYouInThatWay.com is posting this with the headline "Natalie Cole States the Obvious."
I usually agree with IDLYITW and it's pretty lame that they're supporting this overly-opinionated, self-important, tool-y idea that awards shouldn't be given to people with messed up personal lives.
How you gonna do me like that, IDLYITW?
By anonymous, on February 12, 2008 20:03:52
Natalie, you sound jealous and racist. Bet if that was Whitney Houston that won, you'd have nothing but praise. You called Winehouse crazy, are you a doctor? Tell you what IS crazy, you doing drugs with a REVEREND! Natalie, did you give that poor man drugs???
By anonymous, on February 13, 2008 13:19:58
Why can't you just accept the fact that Amy has talent and be happy for her? Sour grapes, hate and resentment make for a very unhappy life. I've never heard Amy sing, but I have heard you sing, Natalie, and I think you sing like an angel. The duet, Unforgetable, is one of my favorite records of all time. But now, when I hear it, instead of enjoying it, I'll be thinking about what a hypocrite you are.
By anonymous, on February 13, 2008 14:06:48
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