Jay Leno does not need to work - so whatever he decides is what makes him feel the best about himself ... and he is completely entitled to that. More power to him.
2, It may be true that Leno doesn't have to work, but he does..constantly. He still gigs 100-200 nights a year OUTSIDE of the Tonight Show. Seinfeld ripped into him in the movie "Comedian" on that very thing.
Bottom Line: Conan has no audience, couldn't build one and lost half of the audience during his tenure. Give me a break with that "Jay's ratings brought the whole night down" crap. If people have a good show, they'll tune in. Howard Stern proved that when he had that late night "show".
However, it would be cool to see both Leno and Conan just bail on NBC. Why should either of them trust the network now?
Fuck both of them...how about we get Megan Fox to host a show in which the only things discussed are:
1. lingerie 2. girls in lingerie 3. girls helping eachother out of lingerie 4. monday night football parties in which ladies must ONLY wear lingerie
Then on a more serious note, we talk about bith control. Which explains to women how anal sex is #1 in preventing unwanting pregnancies. And we discuss relationships as well and how its very important to provide your man with variety if the relationship is to be strong, fulfilled and kept "spicy"!
And of course sports! Mud wrestling...
And games! Naked twister...
And of course our lovely lady Host Megan will give US MEN advice...like how to talk your woman into a threesome in a way that makes her think it was her idea from the start!
I think that Leno realizes how bad a PR hit he took during the Dave vs. Jay battle for the Tonight Show. He's trying to make it clear that (or make it seem like) he's not the one trying to push Conan out so that there won't be a backlash when he ends up on FOX or back at 11:35. I'm not a Leno fan at all, but I think this is a good move on his part.
#8 That's a great idea! The first episode can be about how to do a gangbang. Your mother will volunteer with ten gorillas. That's family entertainment.
Jay Leno did not retire on his on. NBC retired him. Why didn't they just leave it alone? Jay is funny . Conan is not. I wish them both good speed,but you know what they are both funnier than Letterman!
I have a buddy in the TV business for 25 years now, and he told me this was down wind months ago. A lot of people in the biz knew this was coming, they just didn't think NBC would fuck it up as bad as they have.
Yes in 2004 Conan signed a contract to take over the Tonight Show when Leno retired. That was supposed to be in 2009. Leno told NBC he wanted to keep working. So NBC fearing he go to another network came up with the lame solution that caused all this mess.
Leno signed a 4 year $100 Million contract to do his show, that's $25 mil per year for the mathematically challenged - all guaranteed money. I'm not sure what Conan signed or what Fallon signed but could find out if I really cared.
That being said Leno's ratings sucked not because he's washed up, or his format stunk, which I personally believe, but because viewers don't want to watch talk shows at 10pm.
So if Leno walks after 4 months, that's roughly $87.5 million in his jeans for nothing. NBC can't afford that after fucking up both their Late Night franchises with Conan and Fallon at the wheels.
You heard it hear first folks. There is much more to this story than the public will ever find out and all of these guys are trying to be the victims in this because they all want to work again - somewhere.
The only thing NBC has done right in this whole mess is come to the realization early that Fallon and Conan were failures.
Didn't realize people watched 'late night talk shows' excuse me 'movie infomercials' anymore who needs them. Dave Letterman is the shit anyway, he made them bearable and actually funny to start with, even though he started as a morning talk show. I'd rather fuck a goat than sit there listening to some star ramble on about their movie. Give me Howard Stern if that's all I'm going to see at least he had live nude girls.
Conan's inability to build an audience is certainly clouded by the presence of Jay just 90 minutes earlier every night. Why would Leno fans convert and accept Conan if they are essentially getting the same Leno show anyway?
I don't blame Leno in this, though. He was let go by NBC and when he started talking to other networks, NBC couldn't bear the thought of letting him go and competing against Conan. Now NBC wants its 10pm slot back and is trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube, and making Jay look bad. HE didn't start this, and Conan is understandably upset, too. It would serve NBC right to lose both of them to another network, (though it isn't right to put Conan on later than 11:30.) Jimmy Fallon, btw, is a secondary character, whose hilarious show would be completely screwed over by a move to 1am.
What NBC ought to do is put local news on at 10, then Jay, then Conan, then Fallon. Jay probably ought to just walk away and do live shows for a few years before contemplating a return to TV, when the climate is different.
You know, David Letterman is only 4 years younger than Johnny Carson was when he retired...
Conan's inability to build an audience is certainly clouded by the presence of Jay just 90 minutes earlier every night. Why would Leno fans convert and accept Conan if they are essentially getting the same Leno show anyway?
I don't blame Leno in this, though. He was let go by NBC and when he started talking to other networks, NBC couldn't bear the thought of letting him go and competing against Conan. Now NBC wants its 10pm slot back and is trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube, and making Jay look bad. HE didn't start this, and Conan is understandably upset, too. It would serve NBC right to lose both of them to another network, (though it isn't right to put Conan on later than 11:30.) Jimmy Fallon, btw, is a secondary character, whose hilarious show would be completely screwed over by a move to 1am.
What NBC ought to do is put local news on at 10, then Jay, then Conan, then Fallon. Jay probably ought to just walk away and do live shows for a few years before contemplating a return to TV, when the climate is different.
You know, David Letterman is only 4 years younger than Johnny Carson was when he retired...
This is a smart move from Leno's point of view. He really doesn't want to leave NBC, he wants his old job back but doesn't want to look like the bad guy (which he is, don't think anything else) so he leaks out that he "feels sorry for Conan" and threatens to leave. The dumb-ass execs at NBC wants him to stay (this Leno knows) so he leaks out this, so the execs get scared and offer him even more money and his job back. It's just very smart move from Leno. But if he does really mean it, and will walk away because the treatment that CoCo is getting, why doesn't he put out a public (official) statement? Because he doesn't f*cking mean it!
How did Leno become the bad guy? Conan pushed him out by forcing NBC's hand a few years ago, and now that the execs have figured out that Conan doesn't work at 11:30, they want to move him. Bad ratings usually mean cancellation--is this news?
Happily, I realized that none of them is worth watching any longer. Formula jokes and vapid guests don't make me want to tune in.
can straight men please explain to me what is the point of having anal sex with a woman when you have a nice wet pussy to fuck? i don't like the way it feels and quite frankly it's kinda fuckin gay for a straight to wanna do that. i have yet to meet a girl who says she likes it. guys, if your girl says it feels good 1. she's probably lying to spare your feelings or 2. she's got a prostate which means you're gay.
Jay was the stupid one. He should have gone to another network or even better go to Sirius or XM or even to a cable channel like Comedy Central. What a great F U to NBC? He would have brought so much buzz. Even better, he should have reached to Conan and negotiated as a team like the Friends cast. He didn't realize that he had the power all along. Dumb!
Let me get this straight: Leno is better than Dave and Conan at getting what he wants. In an extremely ruthless industry where people would gladly fuck over their mothers to get ahead, this makes him Leno a bad guy. Color me uninterested.
Who gives a shit about these two unfunny cretins? Who picked these two freak shows to be on television?! One is a socially awkward leprechaun and the other a sprayed skunk with a titanic chin. Give me something that looks like a human at least!
Am I the only one who actually watched the new lineup? I usually watch it all from Jay to Jimmy. Now it's going to be all screwed up with another stupid crime drama or canned laugh show before the news. Then I guess some random new host of whatever they decide to call the new talk show. I won't bother tuning in. I'll learn to watch Letterman and his little gargoyle bandleader unless of course #8 got it right. That's about all NBC could do to avoid losing their nighttime viewers. Way to tell 'em where to stick their time slot Conan!
It went downhill whemn Conan had to lose all his Characters and whem Jay's 10 show looked identical To his 11:30 show We need Obama to create a late nkight czar and to Give govt $$ to Jay, Conan and NBC to get themselves Out of this mess b/c obviously the market won't Do it. Actually we need Amanda Bynes to have a show at 11:30 called "try to sleep after this" where she And Fox News reporters compete for best leg show.
#8 I will provide the money, but I will first need just a small deposit to show that I can trust you. Please post your account credentials for transfer along with your federal tax ID and mother's maiden name. I will be in touch.
Jimmy Kimmel's show as Jay Leno was awful. He looked like Bill Clinton, and had an inexplicable lisp. He couldn't do a Jay Leno impression at all. It was terribly unfunny, and demonstrated Jimmy's mean-spirited nature. What a tool. Not a surprise from a guy who dropped his wife and kids the minute he got a bit successful.
Leno's camp is doing damage control, plain and simple. NBC has had their heads up their asses for awhile, and likely won't make the right decision now either. Even if Conan walks and they get Jay back at 11:30, they will still have to pay Conan the remainder of his contract even if he is sitting at home picking his ass! I don't think either of them is funny, but Conan did nothing to deserve the treatment he is getting. Ratings were WAY down when Leno took over for Carson but they gave him a fair shake to build an audience. Having Jay as a lead in for Conan and then expecting him to build steam in 7 months is in no way fair to him Secretly, I just hope Conan goes back to writing for the Simpsons.
#32...can I trust you humble Nigerian, Im looking for NBC to fund this POS idea.
Any heterosexual man that doesnt think this idea is great cannot call themselves heterosexual..."i dunno, lingerie clad sluts or Leno?" Hmmm, thats a tough call!
Leno was king of late night when Zucker pushed him out in favor of Conan backed by SNL Lorne Michaels. Leno and Conan are both victims of NBC. Both are classy guys, wish them both well.
41 Comments:
Leave Your CommentThey could both do NOTHING for the rest of their lives and have more money than me. WHO CARES!
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 07:25:40
Jay Leno does not need to work - so whatever he decides is what makes him feel the best about himself ... and he is completely entitled to that. More power to him.
By Midlife Bachelor, on January 13, 2010 07:28:11
2, It may be true that Leno doesn't have to work, but he does..constantly. He still gigs 100-200 nights a year OUTSIDE of the Tonight Show. Seinfeld ripped into him in the movie "Comedian" on that very thing.
Bottom Line: Conan has no audience, couldn't build one and lost half of the audience during his tenure. Give me a break with that "Jay's ratings brought the whole night down" crap. If people have a good show, they'll tune in. Howard Stern proved that when he had that late night "show".
However, it would be cool to see both Leno and Conan just bail on NBC. Why should either of them trust the network now?
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 07:48:31
Fuck when is my GE stock going to rebound? Cry for me you bitches. God damn, what do you think I am, Haitian or something? FUCK!
By Genl. Pinochet, on January 13, 2010 07:53:35
Fuck Leno... his ratings sucked and they wanted to get him more... Conan and Leno age groups are totally different
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 08:17:52
ooh the calam- it- tyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By not jon stewart, on January 13, 2010 08:36:09
please stick to showing slutty or provocative chicks...who cares about Leno?
By Lee Cadaver, on January 13, 2010 08:52:57
Fuck both of them...how about we get Megan Fox to host a show in which the only things discussed are:
1. lingerie
2. girls in lingerie
3. girls helping eachother out of lingerie
4. monday night football parties in which ladies must ONLY wear lingerie
Then on a more serious note, we talk about bith control. Which explains to women how anal sex is #1 in preventing unwanting pregnancies. And we discuss relationships as well and how its very important to provide your man with variety if the relationship is to be strong, fulfilled and kept "spicy"!
And of course sports! Mud wrestling...
And games! Naked twister...
And of course our lovely lady Host Megan will give US MEN advice...like how to talk your woman into a threesome in a way that makes her think it was her idea from the start!
NBC, call me...
By wishful thinking, on January 13, 2010 08:59:38
I think that Leno realizes how bad a PR hit he took during the Dave vs. Jay battle for the Tonight Show. He's trying to make it clear that (or make it seem like) he's not the one trying to push Conan out so that there won't be a backlash when he ends up on FOX or back at 11:35. I'm not a Leno fan at all, but I think this is a good move on his part.
By Dave Fan, on January 13, 2010 10:16:25
#8 That's a great idea! The first episode can be about how to do a gangbang. Your mother will volunteer with ten gorillas. That's family entertainment.
By Tony Orlando, on January 13, 2010 10:37:25
Jay Leno did not retire on his on. NBC retired him. Why didn't they just leave it alone?
Jay is funny . Conan is not.
I wish them both good speed,but you know what they are both funnier than Letterman!
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 10:47:28
so who's gonna host the tonight show?
i KNOW its not fallon
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 11:00:25
I have a buddy in the TV business for 25 years now, and he told me this was down wind months ago. A lot of people in the biz knew this was coming, they just didn't think NBC would fuck it up as bad as they have.
Yes in 2004 Conan signed a contract to take over the Tonight Show when Leno retired. That was supposed to be in 2009. Leno told NBC he wanted to keep working. So NBC fearing he go to another network came up with the lame solution that caused all this mess.
Leno signed a 4 year $100 Million contract to do his show, that's $25 mil per year for the mathematically challenged - all guaranteed money. I'm not sure what Conan signed or what Fallon signed but could find out if I really cared.
That being said Leno's ratings sucked not because he's washed up, or his format stunk, which I personally believe, but because viewers don't want to watch talk shows at 10pm.
So if Leno walks after 4 months, that's roughly $87.5 million in his jeans for nothing. NBC can't afford that after fucking up both their Late Night franchises with Conan and Fallon at the wheels.
You heard it hear first folks. There is much more to this story than the public will ever find out and all of these guys are trying to be the victims in this because they all want to work again - somewhere.
The only thing NBC has done right in this whole mess is come to the realization early that Fallon and Conan were failures.
By A TV guy., on January 13, 2010 11:20:28
Didn't realize people watched 'late night talk shows' excuse me 'movie infomercials' anymore who needs them. Dave Letterman is the shit anyway, he made them bearable and actually funny to start with, even though he started as a morning talk show. I'd rather fuck a goat than sit there listening to some star ramble on about their movie. Give me Howard Stern if that's all I'm going to see at least he had live nude girls.
By Amazing Larry, on January 13, 2010 11:26:25
Conan's inability to build an audience is certainly clouded by the presence of Jay just 90 minutes earlier every night. Why would Leno fans convert and accept Conan if they are essentially getting the same Leno show anyway?
I don't blame Leno in this, though. He was let go by NBC and when he started talking to other networks, NBC couldn't bear the thought of letting him go and competing against Conan. Now NBC wants its 10pm slot back and is trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube, and making Jay look bad. HE didn't start this, and Conan is understandably upset, too. It would serve NBC right to lose both of them to another network, (though it isn't right to put Conan on later than 11:30.) Jimmy Fallon, btw, is a secondary character, whose hilarious show would be completely screwed over by a move to 1am.
What NBC ought to do is put local news on at 10, then Jay, then Conan, then Fallon. Jay probably ought to just walk away and do live shows for a few years before contemplating a return to TV, when the climate is different.
You know, David Letterman is only 4 years younger than Johnny Carson was when he retired...
By dmccall, on January 13, 2010 11:33:19
Conan's inability to build an audience is certainly clouded by the presence of Jay just 90 minutes earlier every night. Why would Leno fans convert and accept Conan if they are essentially getting the same Leno show anyway?
I don't blame Leno in this, though. He was let go by NBC and when he started talking to other networks, NBC couldn't bear the thought of letting him go and competing against Conan. Now NBC wants its 10pm slot back and is trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube, and making Jay look bad. HE didn't start this, and Conan is understandably upset, too. It would serve NBC right to lose both of them to another network, (though it isn't right to put Conan on later than 11:30.) Jimmy Fallon, btw, is a secondary character, whose hilarious show would be completely screwed over by a move to 1am.
What NBC ought to do is put local news on at 10, then Jay, then Conan, then Fallon. Jay probably ought to just walk away and do live shows for a few years before contemplating a return to TV, when the climate is different.
You know, David Letterman is only 4 years younger than Johnny Carson was when he retired...
By dmccall, on January 13, 2010 11:33:29
NBC = NOBODY CARES
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 11:39:19
This is a smart move from Leno's point of view. He really doesn't want to leave NBC, he wants his old job back but doesn't want to look like the bad guy (which he is, don't think anything else) so he leaks out that he "feels sorry for Conan" and threatens to leave. The dumb-ass execs at NBC wants him to stay (this Leno knows) so he leaks out this, so the execs get scared and offer him even more money and his job back. It's just very smart move from Leno. But if he does really mean it, and will walk away because the treatment that CoCo is getting, why doesn't he put out a public (official) statement?
Because he doesn't f*cking mean it!
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 11:43:11
How did Leno become the bad guy? Conan pushed him out by forcing NBC's hand a few years ago, and now that the execs have figured out that Conan doesn't work at 11:30, they want to move him. Bad ratings usually mean cancellation--is this news?
Happily, I realized that none of them is worth watching any longer. Formula jokes and vapid guests don't make me want to tune in.
By Hugo Z, on January 13, 2010 12:53:48
can straight men please explain to me what is the point of having anal sex with a woman when you have a nice wet pussy to fuck? i don't like the way it feels and quite frankly it's kinda fuckin gay for a straight to wanna do that. i have yet to meet a girl who says she likes it. guys, if your girl says it feels good 1. she's probably lying to spare your feelings or 2. she's got a prostate which means you're gay.
By Niecy, on January 13, 2010 13:31:09
Jay was the stupid one. He should have gone to another network or even better go to Sirius or XM or even to a cable channel like Comedy Central. What a great F U to NBC? He would have brought so much buzz. Even better, he should have reached to Conan and negotiated as a team like the Friends cast. He didn't realize that he had the power all along. Dumb!
By Twinkle, on January 13, 2010 13:54:59
Let me get this straight: Leno is better than Dave and Conan at getting what he wants. In an extremely ruthless industry where people would gladly fuck over their mothers to get ahead, this makes him Leno a bad guy. Color me uninterested.
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 13:58:55
Chevy Chase and Jim Kimmel's bit was HORRIFICALLY unfunny. No surprise.
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 14:22:45
Who gives a shit about these two unfunny cretins? Who picked these two freak shows to be on television?! One is a socially awkward leprechaun and the other a sprayed skunk with a titanic chin. Give me something that looks like a human at least!
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 14:51:05
lawl @ nbc at trying to reinvent the wheel.
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 15:46:41
Am I the only one who actually watched the new lineup? I usually watch it all from Jay to Jimmy. Now it's going to be all screwed up with another stupid crime drama or canned laugh show before the news. Then I guess some random new host of whatever they decide to call the new talk show. I won't bother tuning in. I'll learn to watch Letterman and his little gargoyle bandleader unless of course #8 got it right. That's about all NBC could do to avoid losing their nighttime viewers.
Way to tell 'em where to stick their time slot Conan!
By Underpants Gnome, on January 13, 2010 16:38:33
SOMEBODY FUND #8!!
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 16:41:46
Leno is only funny to old republicans
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 17:07:41
Bullshit.
This is propaganda put out by Leno's camp to make him look good.
He's not going anywhere.
By anonymous, on January 13, 2010 17:39:51
It went downhill whemn Conan had to lose all his
Characters and whem Jay's 10 show looked identical
To his 11:30 show
We need Obama to create a late nkight czar and to
Give govt $$ to Jay, Conan and NBC to get themselves
Out of this mess b/c obviously the market won't
Do it.
Actually we need Amanda Bynes to have a show at
11:30 called "try to sleep after this" where she
And Fox News reporters compete for best leg show.
By anonymous, on January 14, 2010 01:00:48
Leno is only funny to old republicans
Not unless they're letting him perform in black-face again.
The negros get so angry when they hear about that!
By Barbara Bush, on January 14, 2010 01:06:32
#8 I will provide the money, but I will first need just a small deposit to show that I can trust you. Please post your account credentials for transfer along with your federal tax ID and mother's maiden name. I will be in touch.
By the humble Nigerian, on January 14, 2010 02:49:43
Jimmy Kimmel's show as Jay Leno was awful. He looked like Bill Clinton, and had an inexplicable lisp. He couldn't do a Jay Leno impression at all. It was terribly unfunny, and demonstrated Jimmy's mean-spirited nature. What a tool. Not a surprise from a guy who dropped his wife and kids the minute he got a bit successful.
By anonymous, on January 14, 2010 03:06:48
Oh captain, my captain!
By mutterhals@hotmail.com, on January 14, 2010 03:12:12
What fucking geniuses thought that a "variety" type show would work in 2009/2010? That shit died off thankfully in the 70's. Fuck Leno - fuck NBC.
By anonymous, on January 14, 2010 03:55:27
Leno's camp is doing damage control, plain and simple. NBC has had their heads up their asses for awhile, and likely won't make the right decision now either.
Even if Conan walks and they get Jay back at 11:30, they will still have to pay Conan the remainder of his contract even if he is sitting at home picking his ass!
I don't think either of them is funny, but Conan did nothing to deserve the treatment he is getting. Ratings were WAY down when Leno took over for Carson but they gave him a fair shake to build an audience. Having Jay as a lead in for Conan and then expecting him to build steam in 7 months is in no way fair to him
Secretly, I just hope Conan goes back to writing for the Simpsons.
By anonymous, on January 14, 2010 04:13:43
Fat ugly dyke alert on #10...
#32...can I trust you humble Nigerian, Im looking for NBC to fund this POS idea.
Any heterosexual man that doesnt think this idea is great cannot call themselves heterosexual..."i dunno, lingerie clad sluts or Leno?" Hmmm, thats a tough call!
By wishful thinking, on January 14, 2010 05:44:04
Leno was king of late night when Zucker pushed him out in favor of Conan backed by SNL Lorne Michaels.
Leno and Conan are both victims of NBC.
Both are classy guys, wish them both well.
By anonymous, on January 14, 2010 07:40:13
Why is the Media bashing JAY?
By anonymous, on January 14, 2010 08:15:35
That Kimmel bit was AWFUL. With any luck, Conan or Jay will take HIS job.
By anonymous, on January 14, 2010 10:46:37
Actually we need Amanda Bynes to have a show at
11:30 called "try to sleep after this" where she
And Fox News reporters compete for best leg show.
I swear to God, Ann Coulter has the BEST legs I've ever seen on a transsexual.
Wish he'd get his tits fixed, though.
By anonymous, on January 14, 2010 16:46:12
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