I agree with you on their actions not seeking medical treatment that could help. Your blasphemy on the other hand, is outright uncalled for. Not that you have to be politically correct (I hate PC), but a little better judgement wouldn't hurt!! Good luck in the afterlife, Tod!!
did you really compare hubbard to jesus?? maybe once scientology stops being a money hungry cult then you have some comparison. once scientology makes all their doctrine freely available to the public, then maybe.
i understand the similarities in the fanaticism in religious people and cult members, but please dont compare scientology to any religion. IT'S A FUCKING CULT.
@ #1: What afterlife? It might be ok to tell children tales so they can sleep at night, but as a grown up you do not seriously believe in an afterlife, do you? You might be disappointed someday ...
@#7 I guess you don't believe in aliens either, right? It's better to believe in something than in nothing at all. I think you need to start thinking about your life. Don't tell me you believe in a "big bang"? HA!!! That would really be stupid!!
What the fuck does Jesus have to do with this shit, Todd? Does Christianity say one shouldn't seek the best modern medical treatment available? Come on, don't be a dumb fuck. There's a huge difference between a money-grubbing cult dreamt up by a sleazy sci fi writer and a religion of two billion going on over 2000 years of activity.
And to the enlightened atheists out there: God doesn't exist? You sure? Ok, I want proof. I want evidence God doesn't exist. These are your own 'high' standards for believing in something, right?
If there is no afterlife, then you won't be around to be disappointed. On the other hand, lots of people (a large majority, in fact) seem to believe in an afterlife. You might want to give it more than just a passing thought...
Though Scientology is a joke, autism is a spectrum disorder, meaning it varies. Antidepressant and anti-psychotic medication are not used to treat autism in a majority of cases. I am more offended that they didn't come out until after his death and become advocates for the research/awareness of autism while he lived. Still, Scientology is lame.
#9 you are correct you can neither prove nor disprove that god exists. The caveat of this argument comes down to do you throw out science and logic to accept something with no factual basis. Science and religion are not mutually exclusive but to deny the scientific evidence for the big bang and evolution in favour of religion is lunacy. The fact that either of those events occured does not preclude the concept of god.
@10: People believe in an afterlife because their presentlife sucks and they need to believe they have something better waiting for them after they keel over. Instead of pining for a future paradise, you'd be better served trying to make a better life for yourself and those around you.
I don't believe in religion, but there is definitely a god. And for those of you who don't believe you have a soul...just look up out-of-body and near-death experiences. The Illuminati gave you 2 ways to enslave your mind...one is religion: with the fear of hell. And the other atheism: with the fear of death. Namaste
I don't remember reading anything in the Bible about not seeking medical care. When my baby had a blood clot, we took her to the hospital, and we prayed for her. I see no reason that belief in God should keep one from going to a doctor. Belief in a cult leader, however, might prevent one from making informed medical choices. :)
Enough of the religious talk. Believers will never convince the athiests and athiests will never convince the believers. Just leave it the fuck alone. it is exhausted listening to you people argue about it. He made a joke! Big fucking deal! Keep your religious righteous indignation to yourself. No one gives a fuck!
In my opinion Religion (ANY RELIGION) is the biggest problem facing mankind today. Religion has killed more people than any disease. It's 2011, we all better wake up and realize that it's time to stop believing in fairy tales.
All I can say about her is that I remember her and her perfect tits bouncin' around when she was ridin' Tom Cruise in the movie, Jerry McGuire...god I'll never forget that scene! Matter of fact, it still might be on pause @ home right now as I'm typing this.
Agreed...her tits are fuckin' huge in the poster pic!
So the piece starts off as a bash of Scientology because, after all, there is a story here. Then for no particular reason it veers off into a bash of Christianity.
So, you gutless wonder, you wanna substitute Islam for Christianity the next time you need an outlet for your religious attitudes? No, I didn't think so. Gee, you're really brave.
The only difference between a religion and a cult is time.#9 you are making the claim that something exists-atheists are not-you come up with the proof......yea, thats what i thought.
Those of your readers of the bigot/moron class need to google "Belgian priest" before saying the big bang is antithetical to Christianity. After all Monseigneur Georges Lemaître, who proposed the "big Bang", theory was a Catholic priest.
I also believe the reason that there are so many incredibly odd names in the bible is because they didn't have spell check back then so Eric becomes Ezekiel. <grin> Just a thought and YES Kelly does have a huge rack.
@ # 2 RELIGION=CULT. CULT=RELIGION. get it? Do you read? all of them are superstitious groups who worship an invisible being that doesn't exist. Just different names.
This is so dumb. He died from a seizure and cracking his skull open, that had nothing to do with him seeing a psychiatrist or not for antidepressants. And you gotta love all the comments, "oh bash Scientology!! Get those meanies!! But you better leave my good ol' Christianity alone! Squeeeek!" lol. My biggest complaint is that your lame post makes no sense and doesn't successfully bash anything. Stick to talking about boobs, it works better that way. Most religious people are going to seek comfort in their religion or beliefs in a time of loss...makes sense that she would, too. I'm sure you can't comprehend the magnitude of grief and loss that comes with the death of a child.
Antidepressants and Antipsychotics are not typically prescribed for children with autism as they are largely unnecessary. If their child additionally had a seizure disorder, which they have freely admitted, they he should have been on seizure suppressant medication. Soooo, basically I agree with your final statement that their lack of medical intervention may have killed their son.
Antidepressants and Antipsychotics are not typically prescribed for children with autism as they are largely unnecessary. If their child additionally had a seizure disorder, which they have freely admitted, they he should have been on seizure suppressant medication. Soooo, basically I agree with your final statement that their lack of medical intervention may have killed their son.
There's no god. HTH. However, I'm not sure Jett could've been saved; usually autism is not treated with medication. Unless he also had a seizure disorder - but still, even with meds, you could die. Poor kid.
26 - atheists are making the (positive) claim 'God does not exist'. This requires proof, especially since atheists specifically claim to believe in things like facts, evidence, proof, etc.
God, as understood by all religions, is a supernatural being beyond the physical realm of this world. How do you expect there to be physical evidence or proof for something that, by definition, has no physical or material presence?
12 - I'm not sure how belief in God automatically implies a throwing out of science and logic.
In fact logic would dictate that since God is universally understood as being a supernatural non-physical being one cannot expect there to be any physical evidence for his existence.
When subjected to the rules of logic the atheist position comes out wanting and illogical. Atheism is in fact a creed just like any other religion, requiring belief and faith in things that fly in the face of logic and reason.
The only intellectually honest position a strict logician can take is agnosticism.
Did she also mention that L. Ron Hubbard died a psychotic doped up on drugs? This is common knowledge; police report and coroner's report are on line. Fascinating reading. I don't know why they keep forgetting that part.
Autism is not usually treated with drugs, unless the child has a seizure disorder - which is not uncommon. Travolta's son, from what I understand, DID have a seizure disorder. So yes, being a fucktard scientologist killed his son. And psychiatry is abusive? Riiiiiight.
you guys are idiots. my point is that if you start comparing scientology to religion then youre basically calling them a religion which is exactly what they want. youre playing into their hands.
#26, there's a much bigger difference between cults and religions. cults usually try to brainwash their members, and have you ever tried to leave a cult? it's a lot harder than just not going to a church anymore. (i kno people who hate religion will say that religions brainwash people, too. but they don't. you're just regurgitating other bullshit that you've heard. idiots.)
bottomline. scientology's not a religion. it's a cult. stfu please
Scientology didn't kill their son. Their belief in scientology killed their son; their inability to accept their son as he was, their inability to seek medication for him that could have helped, and their arrogance killed their son. They have no one but themselves to blame for letting their own child die...
Todd, who cares if believing in the EASTER BUNNY got her thru the loss of her child...I dont think you should make fun of a situation like this. She did medicate him at one point,It didnt help him.
#41, Atheist's only 'claim' to have no belief in a god as we have no belief in a magical teacup circling the moon. #47,i was inferring that time and history can legitimize many things including christianity.look up some early history of it before it was sanitised-same thing will happen with Hubbards scam.
54 - you can prove there is no teacup circling the moon. you cannot prove there is no God. yet atheists claim with total certainty that there is no God. that's belief, not logic; just like a religion.
#3 Anonymous... Scientology things homosexuality is an unnatural reactive state that can be treated and reversed.
The funniest thing about Scientology... they don't believe in psychiatry, yet their "demi-god" found had dementia before he died. According to their beliefs in him being half-alien, this should have been impossible... oh, and of course because psychiatric illnesses are imaginary... oops!
#3 Anonymous... Scientology things homosexuality is an unnatural reactive state that can be treated and reversed.
The funniest thing about Scientology... they don't believe in psychiatry, yet their "demi-god" founder had dementia before he died. According to their beliefs in him being half-alien, this should have been impossible... oh, and of course because psychiatric illnesses are imaginary... oops!
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Leave Your CommentI agree with you on their actions not seeking medical treatment that could help. Your blasphemy on the other hand, is outright uncalled for. Not that you have to be politically correct (I hate PC), but a little better judgement wouldn't hurt!! Good luck in the afterlife, Tod!!
By IRod, on August 18, 2011 06:17:17
did you really compare hubbard to jesus?? maybe once scientology stops being a money hungry cult then you have some comparison. once scientology makes all their doctrine freely available to the public, then maybe.
i understand the similarities in the fanaticism in religious people and cult members, but please dont compare scientology to any religion. IT'S A FUCKING CULT.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 06:18:38
Holy tits Batman! Kelly's rack has gotten massive!
She's so brainwashed.
BTW, what does Scientology say about homosexuality? Honestly don't know, and we've all heard the rumors about Travolta.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 06:18:59
another example of a religious whacko, will it ever end?
By mts007, on August 18, 2011 06:23:56
LOL @1&2..."don't compare religion to a cult"...um yeah...
By Xenu, on August 18, 2011 06:41:25
Agree with Poster #3: ginormous rack. Who gets to play with those bad girls? Certainly not her husband ...
And one word for ya, Kelly: C-U-L-T.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 06:41:38
@ #1: What afterlife? It might be ok to tell children tales so they can sleep at night, but as a grown up you do not seriously believe in an afterlife, do you? You might be disappointed someday ...
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 06:43:15
@#7 I guess you don't believe in aliens either, right? It's better to believe in something than in nothing at all. I think you need to start thinking about your life. Don't tell me you believe in a "big bang"? HA!!! That would really be stupid!!
By IRod, on August 18, 2011 07:17:06
What the fuck does Jesus have to do with this shit, Todd? Does Christianity say one shouldn't seek the best modern medical treatment available? Come on, don't be a dumb fuck. There's a huge difference between a money-grubbing cult dreamt up by a sleazy sci fi writer and a religion of two billion going on over 2000 years of activity.
And to the enlightened atheists out there: God doesn't exist? You sure? Ok, I want proof. I want evidence God doesn't exist. These are your own 'high' standards for believing in something, right?
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 07:20:23
LOL at #7's logic...
If there is no afterlife, then you won't be around to be disappointed.
On the other hand, lots of people (a large majority, in fact) seem to believe in an afterlife. You might want to give it more than just a passing thought...
By Just sayin', on August 18, 2011 07:22:13
Though Scientology is a joke, autism is a spectrum disorder, meaning it varies. Antidepressant and anti-psychotic medication are not used to treat autism in a majority of cases. I am more offended that they didn't come out until after his death and become advocates for the research/awareness of autism while he lived. Still, Scientology is lame.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 07:34:41
#9 you are correct you can neither prove nor disprove that god exists. The caveat of this argument comes down to do you throw out science and logic to accept something with no factual basis. Science and religion are not mutually exclusive but to deny the scientific evidence for the big bang and evolution in favour of religion is lunacy. The fact that either of those events occured does not preclude the concept of god.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 07:41:11
@10: People believe in an afterlife because their presentlife sucks and they need to believe they have something better waiting for them after they keel over. Instead of pining for a future paradise, you'd be better served trying to make a better life for yourself and those around you.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 07:50:54
Todd, Please Change the title to "Kelly Preston is a mindless robot with big tits." Thanks
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 08:17:45
I don't believe in religion, but there is definitely a god. And for those of you who don't believe you have a soul...just look up out-of-body and near-death experiences. The Illuminati gave you 2 ways to enslave your mind...one is religion: with the fear of hell. And the other atheism: with the fear of death. Namaste
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 08:19:42
I don't remember reading anything in the Bible about not seeking medical care. When my baby had a blood clot, we took her to the hospital, and we prayed for her. I see no reason that belief in God should keep one from going to a doctor. Belief in a cult leader, however, might prevent one from making informed medical choices. :)
By rachel, on August 18, 2011 08:23:59
Enough of the religious talk. Believers will never convince the athiests and athiests will never convince the believers. Just leave it the fuck alone. it is exhausted listening to you people argue about it. He made a joke! Big fucking deal! Keep your religious righteous indignation to yourself. No one gives a fuck!
By VJ, on August 18, 2011 08:37:50
In my opinion Religion (ANY RELIGION) is the biggest problem facing mankind today. Religion has killed more people than any disease. It's 2011, we all better wake up and realize that it's time to stop believing in fairy tales.
By KJ, on August 18, 2011 09:00:14
#5 Hahahaha! Good one! Was about to post something similar.
By duder, on August 18, 2011 09:22:37
Enough with the religious talk! There are more important things that need to be addessed, like big titties.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 09:25:05
All I can say about her is that I remember her and her perfect tits bouncin' around when she was ridin' Tom Cruise in the movie, Jerry McGuire...god I'll never forget that scene! Matter of fact, it still might be on pause @ home right now as I'm typing this.
Agreed...her tits are fuckin' huge in the poster pic!
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 09:28:46
So the piece starts off as a bash of Scientology because, after all, there is a story here. Then for no particular reason it veers off into a bash of Christianity.
So, you gutless wonder, you wanna substitute Islam for Christianity the next time you need an outlet for your religious attitudes? No, I didn't think so. Gee, you're really brave.
By Cromulent, on August 18, 2011 09:31:37
FYI....Autism is NOT generally treated with medication....not sure where that came from.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 09:39:01
Was with you til you started in with the anti-Christian rhetoric... Yawn...
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 09:52:40
A Mindless Robot, with big ass TITS!!!
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 09:55:33
The only difference between a religion and a cult is time.#9 you are making the claim that something exists-atheists are not-you come up with the proof......yea, thats what i thought.
By toddiesboy, on August 18, 2011 10:00:09
Religious people are less educated, poorer and fatter.
That's how you know god hates them.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 10:00:44
Those of your readers of the bigot/moron class need to google "Belgian priest" before saying the big bang is antithetical to Christianity. After all Monseigneur Georges Lemaître, who proposed the "big Bang", theory was a Catholic priest.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 10:02:00
Boo!
By Glassman, on August 18, 2011 10:07:57
Praise be to Xenu
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 10:17:19
#17: Exactly, thank you.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 10:24:40
A tragedy this...and naming your son Jett.
By I am a shark, on August 18, 2011 10:42:01
I also believe the reason that there are so many incredibly odd names in the bible is because they didn't have spell check back then so Eric becomes Ezekiel. <grin> Just a thought and YES Kelly does have a huge rack.
By KJ, on August 18, 2011 10:58:03
@ # 2 RELIGION=CULT. CULT=RELIGION. get it? Do you read? all of them are superstitious groups who worship an invisible being that doesn't exist. Just different names.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 11:24:14
This is so dumb. He died from a seizure and cracking his skull open, that had nothing to do with him seeing a psychiatrist or not for antidepressants. And you gotta love all the comments, "oh bash Scientology!! Get those meanies!! But you better leave my good ol' Christianity alone! Squeeeek!" lol. My biggest complaint is that your lame post makes no sense and doesn't successfully bash anything. Stick to talking about boobs, it works better that way. Most religious people are going to seek comfort in their religion or beliefs in a time of loss...makes sense that she would, too. I'm sure you can't comprehend the magnitude of grief and loss that comes with the death of a child.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 11:32:43
We knew that when she married a bald, obese gay man.
By Cubs Fan, on August 18, 2011 13:03:06
Antidepressants and Antipsychotics are not typically prescribed for children with autism as they are largely unnecessary. If their child additionally had a seizure disorder, which they have freely admitted, they he should have been on seizure suppressant medication. Soooo, basically I agree with your final statement that their lack of medical intervention may have killed their son.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 13:15:48
Antidepressants and Antipsychotics are not typically prescribed for children with autism as they are largely unnecessary. If their child additionally had a seizure disorder, which they have freely admitted, they he should have been on seizure suppressant medication. Soooo, basically I agree with your final statement that their lack of medical intervention may have killed their son.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 13:16:00
Stop blaming $cientology - obviously it was those nasty body thetans what did it.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 13:22:20
There's no god. HTH.
However, I'm not sure Jett could've been saved; usually autism is not treated with medication. Unless he also had a seizure disorder - but still, even with meds, you could die. Poor kid.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 14:19:18
26 - atheists are making the (positive) claim 'God does not exist'. This requires proof, especially since atheists specifically claim to believe in things like facts, evidence, proof, etc.
God, as understood by all religions, is a supernatural being beyond the physical realm of this world. How do you expect there to be physical evidence or proof for something that, by definition, has no physical or material presence?
By 9, on August 18, 2011 14:20:10
12 - I'm not sure how belief in God automatically implies a throwing out of science and logic.
In fact logic would dictate that since God is universally understood as being a supernatural non-physical being one cannot expect there to be any physical evidence for his existence.
When subjected to the rules of logic the atheist position comes out wanting and illogical. Atheism is in fact a creed just like any other religion, requiring belief and faith in things that fly in the face of logic and reason.
The only intellectually honest position a strict logician can take is agnosticism.
By 9, on August 18, 2011 14:30:47
Religion, the number one reason there should be both a written test and a license to procreate.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 16:00:37
Did she also mention that L. Ron Hubbard died a psychotic doped up on drugs? This is common knowledge; police report and coroner's report are on line. Fascinating reading. I don't know why they keep forgetting that part.
By jaye, on August 18, 2011 16:11:27
Autism is not usually treated with drugs, unless the child has a seizure disorder - which is not uncommon. Travolta's son, from what I understand, DID have a seizure disorder. So yes, being a fucktard scientologist killed his son. And psychiatry is abusive? Riiiiiight.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 16:16:36
You know why Hubbard hated psychiatrists? It's because he was a sociopath and they hate people who can see through their bullshit.
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 18:18:28
you guys are idiots. my point is that if you start comparing scientology to religion then youre basically calling them a religion which is exactly what they want. youre playing into their hands.
#26, there's a much bigger difference between cults and religions. cults usually try to brainwash their members, and have you ever tried to leave a cult? it's a lot harder than just not going to a church anymore. (i kno people who hate religion will say that religions brainwash people, too. but they don't. you're just regurgitating other bullshit that you've heard. idiots.)
bottomline. scientology's not a religion. it's a cult. stfu please
By #2, on August 18, 2011 18:41:43
Scientology didn't kill their son. Their belief in scientology killed their son; their inability to accept their son as he was, their inability to seek medication for him that could have helped, and their arrogance killed their son. They have no one but themselves to blame for letting their own child die...
By anonymous, on August 18, 2011 20:41:32
#17 Right on
By Me!, on August 18, 2011 21:39:37
Between Kelly Preston and Katie Holmes, any article on Scientology should be called "Welcome Back, Caught Her"
By anonymous, on August 19, 2011 00:37:20
Todd, who cares if believing in the EASTER BUNNY got her thru the loss of her child...I dont think you should make fun of a situation like this. She did medicate him at one point,It didnt help him.
By anonymous, on August 19, 2011 04:46:42
I have an autistic son. There is no medicine involved at all just intervention.
By sv, on August 19, 2011 08:44:34
@17 ...if we do and say nothing..this country will turn into a theocracy...oh wait it already is...because of you
By anonymous, on August 19, 2011 10:34:00
#41, Atheist's only 'claim' to have no belief in a god as we have no belief in a magical teacup circling the moon.
#47,i was inferring that time and history can legitimize many things including christianity.look up some early history of it before it was sanitised-same thing will happen with Hubbards scam.
By toddiesboy, on August 19, 2011 10:49:51
54 - you can prove there is no teacup circling the moon. you cannot prove there is no God.
yet atheists claim with total certainty that there is no God. that's belief, not logic; just like a religion.
By anonymous, on August 19, 2011 14:04:16
Your comments show you know absolutely NOTHING about autism.
By anonymous, on August 20, 2011 10:03:06
Big Pharma is one of the biggest scams on earth. That is the ONLY thing I can agree with the scientologists on.
By anonymous, on August 20, 2011 10:04:27
#3 Anonymous... Scientology things homosexuality is an unnatural reactive state that can be treated and reversed.
The funniest thing about Scientology... they don't believe in psychiatry, yet their "demi-god" found had dementia before he died. According to their beliefs in him being half-alien, this should have been impossible... oh, and of course because psychiatric illnesses are imaginary... oops!
By anonymous, on August 21, 2011 06:28:41
#3 Anonymous... Scientology things homosexuality is an unnatural reactive state that can be treated and reversed.
The funniest thing about Scientology... they don't believe in psychiatry, yet their "demi-god" founder had dementia before he died. According to their beliefs in him being half-alien, this should have been impossible... oh, and of course because psychiatric illnesses are imaginary... oops!
By anonymous, on August 21, 2011 06:28:50
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